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Why is the TSA so far out of control? (Closed 4-8-09)

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Marvin_martian_max50

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This is just getting ridiculous!  What the heck is wrong with these people?


http://cbs2chicago.com/investigations/xrated.security.screenings.2.777423.html


From the article:  "She was yelling 'I have power, I have power, I have power," 


Apparently power is standard, but brains are optional.


Is it any wonder that real LEO's despise people like this?


Go out today and preach the gospel, and if you must, use words. St. Francis of Assisi

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The key word here is reasonable, and they have gone off the track. They are not reasonable.


I feel that a great portion of this unreasonable treatment is expressed in the video Power, Power, Power.( conceived power )


 

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I checked in my badge(spare generic) with my firearm last year when I flew to California. The screener who inspected my luggage out of the regional airport then chose me, who was last mind you.....of all the passengers for the advanced search. She knew full well I was a LEO, not only from the checked luggage, but from when I worked there back in 03 when they invaded Iraq and beefed up protection at the airport.


Gotta love TSA, they'll check the cops who checked their firearms, but not anyone else.

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TSA has become a group of EGO-Maniacs.


"I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody. "

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I do not like the TSA. The dad in the article said it best, the key word is reasonable, and they are not. When asked for a supervisor, one should comply, but it should not ever get to that.


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Just another reason to not respect them. I respect authority but when crap like that happens it goes out the window. It's getting ridiculous. 

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The TSA is a WASTE of my TAX PAYER money, To many of them are bafoons and idiots.

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According to the article, "A spokesman said that out of 2 billion passengers screened nationwide since 9-11, there have been only 110,000 abuse complaints."

 


ONLY 110,000 abuse complaints... now, let's say for the sake of argument that only 1% of those complaints is valid....that is still one hell of a lot of civil rights violations.... and the TSA is gonna stand on that principle, yet how many times have we heard stuff like...

Unsafe Skies? TSA Missed 6 out of 10 'Bombs'

TSA Report Shows That Fake Bombs Passed Security Checks in Chicago, Los Angeles

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3746204&page=1


Loaded gun slips through airport security

(Ronald Reagan Airport in Washington DC)


http://edition.cnn.com/2008/US/01/23/airport.gun/index.html?iref=mpstoryview


Orlando airport's efforts fail to prevent gun, drug smuggling

Guns and drugs are getting through, Orlando and Puerto Rico officials say.


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-oiasecurity2808jan28,0,5459052,full.story


Loaded pistol is found past security position
West concourse evacuated; federal probe is launched

http://www.azstarnet.com/metro/204728


 


Of course there have been a couple of "high profile" success cases, like Actor Dennis Farina getting caught in LAX and Govenor Mike Huckabee's son getting caught in LR late last year....


Too many youngsters get their hands on firearms without proper supervision. Keep your guns secure from ALL unauthorized persons! Lets stop burying children - PLEASE (jal.fast@yahoo.com)

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You know what is so rediculous about TSA? Thing about all the things that people caryy every day that can be used as a weapon. Don't know ask I'll tell you.

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You know what is so rediculous about TSA? Thing about all the things that people caryy every day that can be used as a weapon. Don't know ask I'll tell you.



I carried a ball point pen(all metal) and they had NO problems with that. It's funny, cause those things can be as lethal as any knife. Of course, I didn't carry it for that reason.

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TSA.....................Taking scissors away................To many standing around. It is bad when I talk with a tsa supervisor who is a great guy and he tells me thank god we don't carry guns!  To many morons who think they have power!

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TSA.....................Taking scissors away................To many standing around. It is bad when I talk with a tsa supervisor who is a great guy and he tells me thank god we don't carry guns!  To many morons who think they have powe!



AMEN TO THAT!!!!!


Too many youngsters get their hands on firearms without proper supervision. Keep your guns secure from ALL unauthorized persons! Lets stop burying children - PLEASE (jal.fast@yahoo.com)

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ccso8462 says ...



This is just getting ridiculous!  What the heck is wrong with these people?


http://cbs2chicago.com/investigations/xrated.security.screenings.2.777423.html


From the article:  "She was yelling 'I have power, I have power, I have power," 


Apparently power is standard, but brains are optional.


Is it any wonder that real LEO's despise people like this?


 


HONESTLY?


it's quite simple honestly.



  • They hire people who can not get any other kind of work.

  • They like to hire welfare rejects so that said welfare rejects can try to get off of welfare.

  • They hire people who do NOT qualify to be Pre-School Security Guards, yet they can EASILY get a position with the TSA.

  • The TSA just LOVES to keep up with Affirmative Action, so they hire the WORST OF THE WORST OF THE WORST!!

  • They hire people who have GED's when in reality, they shouldn't have even gotten past the 7th grade.

  • They hire people with Fake Gold Teeth and 2lb Fake Gold Loop Earings.

  • They hire people who talk like this: Youz gotz to be taken dem shoz off becuz I had to be chekins you for weaponz and shit YO!

  • The people that actually DO qualify to not get the proper training, low pay and get treated like shit.

  • Affirmative Action.

  • It's a forced job for those who like to collect Unemployment ike it was a damn pension.

  • Affirmative Action.

  • DID I MENTION AFFIRMATIVE ACTION?!?!


 


BTW: THE TSA JUST LOOOOVE TO HARASS LAW ENFORCEMENT!!! God FORBID you're wearing your agencies shirt, hat, polo, boxers, whatever or your wallet just happens to open when you place it down in the bin... oh hell no... prepare to get tortured.


They take their lack of power out on those who have power. It's just too bad that airport Law Enforcement Officials will back up a TSA employee over an LEO... at least those ALE Officials that I have ran into at Newark, JFK, LGA, Philly, Boston, etc.


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ccso8462 says ...



This is just getting ridiculous!  What the heck is wrong with these people?


http://cbs2chicago.com/investigations/xrated.security.screenings.2.777423.html


From the article:  "She was yelling 'I have power, I have power, I have power," 


Apparently power is standard, but brains are optional.


Is it any wonder that real LEO's despise people like this?



BTW: I have a correction to make about the quote... She was screaming


 


  I HAZ POWERZ!!! I BE HAZING MYS POWERZ!!! I HAZ POWERZ!!! I BE HAZING MYS POWERZ!!! I HAZ POWERZ!!! I BE HAZING MYS POWERZ!!! I HAZ POWERZ!!! I BE HAZING MYS POWERZ!!! I HAZ POWERZ!!! I BE HAZING MYS POWERZ!!! I HAZ POWERZ!!! I BE HAZING MYS POWERZ!!! I HAZ POWERZ!!! I BE HAZING MYS POWERZ!!! I HAZ POWERZ!!! I BE HAZING MYS POWERZ!!! I HAZ POWERZ!!! I BE HAZING MYS POWERZ!!! I HAZ POWERZ!!! I BE HAZING MYS POWERZ!!!

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Allen705 says ...



I checked in my badge(spare generic) with my firearm last year when I flew to California. The screener who inspected my luggage out of the regional airport then chose me, who was last mind you.....of all the passengers for the advanced search. She knew full well I was a LEO, not only from the checked luggage, but from when I worked there back in 03 when they invaded Iraq and beefed up protection at the airport.


Gotta love TSA, they'll check the cops who checked their firearms, but not anyone else.



 


FURTHER PROVES MY POINT.

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Anyone ever find narcotics in the same car that a bible was being displayed in the rear deck?  I know they take it too far, but if someone was going to try the sneaky approach to get weapons on a plane, wearing police paraphernalia, or flashing a bage would be a tactic I would expect from terrorist.

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nikkochey says ...



You know what is so rediculous about TSA? Thing about all the things that people caryy every day that can be used as a weapon. Don't know ask I'll tell you.



Oh now you hit it right out of the ballpark with that comment Nikko. If some terrorist receives even mild training he is going to be able to do tremendous damage onboard a plane and the only hope in hell that they might have is a Sky Marshall onboard or a trained LEO or Military person. I would LOVE for the TSA to ask me to run crap through the TSA security. I have no doubt that I could get so much stuff by them including bombs, guns, knives, garrotes, heel you name it and I could probably get it through them and only a fluke chance of getting caught. They are a joke and yes they do love to have power over those that they dislike and LEO's and even servicemen and women are often targets. I get angry every time I think about all those people who do not deserve to be doing this work.

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Anyone ever find narcotics in the same car that a bible was being displayed in the rear deck?  I know they take it too far, but if someone was going to try the sneaky approach to get weapons on a plane, wearing police paraphernalia, or flashing a bage would be a tactic I would expect from terrorist.



GREAT POINT!!!!


but


They do not do it for that reason. They do it because of pure, unadulterated JEALOUSY  !!  MOST OF THEM ANYWAY...

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TSA is pretty much a big joke! It was a good idea to have Federal Security Officer policing the airport, but there training is inadequate. They're hiring the same idiots as these run down security companies ang giving them authority. Stupid! Hire qualified personnel and train them. Show them how to handle different situations and how not to abuse the power they have. They're all pumped up on ego and there superiors in TSA only make it worse. I went through the TSA hiring process and it was a load of shit really. There prescreening was semi alright but the test and evaluations you go through are bs, and you don't get a psych check or anything. If these idiots are goin to working in a federal capacity then they have to go get with the program.

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I have been a guard at a few bases in Australia over the last 10 years and prior to that I was a Municipal Law Enforcement Officer all positions ar un armed. I then left and became an Airport Screener/ Security Officer at an Australian International Airport. My training was in Municipal Law, Three levels of Security Training and then 120 hours of screening training as well as Dangerous Goods Control and if we did not treat our clients with respect we were then given the dirtiest jobs they could find for us as punishment for a period of time before giving training in Man Management Skills and Public Relations.


I have myself been treated with disgust and anger by the people at one airport in America. I am in the US visiting my American daughter whose husband is Military and away for awhile. We went to the Uk for a short trip and on our return I was asked why I did not spend more time in my own country and then sent into a room where I had to wait 2 hours before being given clearance for another 6 month stay.


As I said to my daughter " if I had treated a person with that much disrespect I would have been sacked on the spot" I tried to aske for a Supervisor etc but got told where to go none to politely and "wait my turn". It does not do much for the front door of this great country. I have still applied for my permanecy so that I can be here for the young daughter while her husband is serving.


Keep up the good work guys..Dontlet them get you down there are some good guys out there.

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I flew in my class A uniform 8 time and every time I had a random security check.

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I took the test for TSA about 4-5 years ago. The test itself was a joke; anybody who's eyes work can pass it. Thankfully, looking back, I couldn't do their phase 2 of the hiring process because it was the next day, and the closest location to do it was a 5 hour drive, or another state.


The badge they wear on their uniform goes to their heads. A friend of mine who was an LPO at one point had a woman in a TSA uniform who's kid was causing trouble in the store telling him, "I'm federal Yo." I still laugh to this day at that comment.


"People sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf. "

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I understand the frustration for the experiences that some of you have personally had, but can you REALLY believe what you read from the media?  The same media that nine times out of ten slants stories against law enforcement?  My husband is a behavioral detection officer for TSA.  When he was a TSA he was on a team with several retired military (from all four branches) and with a couple of young guys who were waiting to go to the police academy.  I'll grant you that like any agency TSA has its share of less than stellar employees, but in a lot of situations they aren't given the freedom to use their own judgement.  They aren't allowed to look at a pen and say "this should be taken away" because someone, even one of you, would say that it's only a pen and be upset that their pen was taken.  As for the uniforms, I don't know how much respect for TSA will change, but my husband has received many good comments about the uniform.  Sorry for the long post but my husband and his co-workers are trying to make sure each plane gets safely to it's destination.  Also, if you are wondering whether or not I understand the LEO side of this you can see that I am a federal Special Agent. 

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I worked contract securty at a regional airport, I observed these guys first hand trading porn, uploading/downloading their personal collections to disc, other laptops, from cameras. Not only that, they left their post for hours at a time. Granted, it was small regional airport and some flights were hours apart, but not many jobs with this type of responsiblities allow you to just come and go when you pleased, and BE PAID FOR IT!

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"...only 110,000 abuse complaints".   I've got the Power!

 

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110,000 abuse complaints is a tad high, don't ya think??



"People sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf. "

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I understand the frustration for the experiences that some of you have personally had, but can you REALLY believe what you read from the media?  The same media that nine times out of ten slants stories against law enforcement?  My husband is a behavioral detection officer for TSA.  When he was a TSA he was on a team with several retired military (from all four branches) and with a couple of young guys who were waiting to go to the police academy.  I'll grant you that like any agency TSA has its share of less than stellar employees, but in a lot of situations they aren't given the freedom to use their own judgement.  They aren't allowed to look at a pen and say "this should be taken away" because someone, even one of you, would say that it's only a pen and be upset that their pen was taken.  As for the uniforms, I don't know how much respect for TSA will change, but my husband has received many good comments about the uniform.  Sorry for the long post but my husband and his co-workers are trying to make sure each plane gets safely to it's destination.  Also, if you are wondering whether or not I understand the LEO side of this you can see that I am a federal Special Agent. 



It's not just the press that  is saying bad things about the TSA.  Just look at all the posts here from personal experiences.  Perhaps you husband is one of the good ones, but it appears that TSA has a mojority of yokels and a minority of professionals.  You can't disregard personal experience.


Go out today and preach the gospel, and if you must, use words. St. Francis of Assisi

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I’ve noticed when I travel for military duty or check my weapon in my luggage I am always targeted. It is especially worse when I am wearing my military uniform. They make me take everything damn near off and then standby for a physical search. I like to travel with my badge and weapon but it isn’t worth the harassment from TSA. I try to drive everywhere now because I can keep my family safe and not worry about being stripped searched when we are on the same side and fighting the same bad guys. I always wish I can get a traffic stop where a TSA security guard is the driver so I can write a hard copy for payback!!

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Well for starters, they hired people who were rejected by other police departments. Plus 90% of their management has no law enforcement back ground and come from the airline industry. They have no clue about law enforcement and how it works


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tjlato says ...



 My husband is a behavioral detection officer for TSA. 



Does that mean he is a Pre Cog?  Ok..All joking aside...We have had a few threads about TSA.  Mostly complaining about their "class of service".  I really don't have anything at all good to say about them myself.  I stood in line at LAX last month for almost an hour just to get my boarding pass checked so that I could stand in line another 30 minutes to have all of my stuff gone through. 


So, all whining and joking aside...What do we do about TSA?  I am sure we aren't the only people in the world that have complaints.  What do we do?  What can be done?  We obviously can't boycott the airlines...  Maybe we should start writing our Congressmen/Congresspersons.  I'll bet Hillary won't have to be virtually strip searched next time she sashaes through O'Hare International. 


 



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