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Since the changing of LEO verification to restricted access verification, and giving the little gold badge to non-LEOs on this site, is PL coming up with a way for LEOs to identify other real LEOs now or should we expect PL to continue the way it is currently? It was a great asset to look at profiles and see if who we are talking to is privy to LE sensitive information. This seems to be a slight security risk.


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KSP494 says ...



Since the changing of LEO verification to restricted access verification, and giving the little gold badge to non-LEOs on this site, is PL coming up with a way for LEOs to identify other real LEOs now or should we expect PL to continue the way it is currently? It was a great asset to look at profiles and see if who we are talking to is privy to LE sensitive information. This seems to be a slight security risk.



Wait... WHAT!?!?!


I THOUGHT that it was just a glitch in wording? I THOUGHT and was TOLD that the Restricted Access was still the LEO Verification!


WTF?!

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I would suggest you try the "Eaney-meany-miney-moe" method!

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KSP494 says ...



Since the changing of LEO verification to restricted access verification, and giving the little gold badge to non-LEOs on this site, is PL coming up with a way for LEOs to identify other real LEOs now or should we expect PL to continue the way it is currently? It was a great asset to look at profiles and see if who we are talking to is privy to LE sensitive information. This seems to be a slight security risk.



Wait... WHAT!?!?!


I THOUGHT that it was just a glitch in wording? I THOUGHT and was TOLD that the Restricted Access was still the LEO Verification!


WTF?!



It is Justin, however, they seem to give that to everyone now!

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Since the changing of LEO verification to restricted access verification, and giving the little gold badge to non-LEOs on this site, is PL coming up with a way for LEOs to identify other real LEOs now or should we expect PL to continue the way it is currently? It was a great asset to look at profiles and see if who we are talking to is privy to LE sensitive information. This seems to be a slight security risk.



Wait... WHAT!?!?!


I THOUGHT that it was just a glitch in wording? I THOUGHT and was TOLD that the Restricted Access was still the LEO Verification!


WTF?!



Justin if you look up top they changed the link from request LEO verification to request restricted access. I thought the majority of us including the moderators were asking to improve the verification process so that it was more thorough, so I don't understand the change.


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KSP494 says ...



Since the changing of LEO verification to restricted access verification, and giving the little gold badge to non-LEOs on this site, is PL coming up with a way for LEOs to identify other real LEOs now or should we expect PL to continue the way it is currently? It was a great asset to look at profiles and see if who we are talking to is privy to LE sensitive information. This seems to be a slight security risk.



"Believe half of what you see and nothing you hear."


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well at this point I have to question any new member to PL that has the gold badge because they are not necessarily an LEO. There is one attorney that has the gold badge that the PL staff have not been able to get back to me with an answer yet as to how he could have a badge. I have been thinking of either starting or joining or modifying a group and doing my own verification by name, agency, ORI, and phone number. PL is going through changes and they may be addressing this issue still but we're kind of in the dark. I'm not trying to rock the boat or stir crap, I just don't understand this recent change.


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KSP494 says ...



Since the changing of LEO verification to restricted access verification, and giving the little gold badge to non-LEOs on this site, is PL coming up with a way for LEOs to identify other real LEOs now or should we expect PL to continue the way it is currently? It was a great asset to look at profiles and see if who we are talking to is privy to LE sensitive information. This seems to be a slight security risk.



I THINK that in order to utilize the Restricted Access area you have to be a verified LEO. However, the HR218 IS NOT what PL uses for the verification process. From what I understand, they use a BROADER interpretation which includes some "professions" that are not covered by HR218. I am sure someone will offer a clear explanation eventually.

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well at this point I have to question any new member to PL that has the gold badge because they are not necessarily an LEO. There is one attorney that has the gold badge that the PL staff have not been able to get back to me with an answer yet as to how he could have a badge. I have been thinking of either starting or joining or modifying a group and doing my own verification by name, agency, ORI, and phone number. PL is going through changes and they may be addressing this issue still but we're kind of in the dark. I'm not trying to rock the boat or stir crap, I just don't understand this recent change.



There is another site that verifies via ORI.  They then contact the agency and confirm status of user and confirm the ORI number.  The verification process for that site took me about 4 days to complete.  However, I am sure people still slip through the cracks.  Furthermore, what happens if an officer is fired for unlawful or unethical conduct, who checks up on one's verified status?


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KSP494 says ...



Since the changing of LEO verification to restricted access verification, and giving the little gold badge to non-LEOs on this site, is PL coming up with a way for LEOs to identify other real LEOs now or should we expect PL to continue the way it is currently? It was a great asset to look at profiles and see if who we are talking to is privy to LE sensitive information. This seems to be a slight security risk.



I THINK the in order to utilize the Restricted Access area you have to be a verified LEO. However, the HR218 IS NOT what PL uses for the verification process. From what I understand, they use a BROADER interpretation which includes some "professions" that are not covered by HR218. I am sure someone will offer a clear explanation eventually.



There is no "Broader" interpretation, you are either an LEO under HR218 or you ain't! Thats it, done! Somebody needs to get it together round here!

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KSP494 says ...



Since the changing of LEO verification to restricted access verification, and giving the little gold badge to non-LEOs on this site, is PL coming up with a way for LEOs to identify other real LEOs now or should we expect PL to continue the way it is currently? It was a great asset to look at profiles and see if who we are talking to is privy to LE sensitive information. This seems to be a slight security risk.



I THINK the in order to utilize the Restricted Access area you have to be a verified LEO. However, the HR218 IS NOT what PL uses for the verification process. From what I understand, they use a BROADER interpretation which includes some "professions" that are not covered by HR218. I am sure someone will offer a clear explanation eventually.



The problem with that broader view is now we have to figure out a way to keep non LEOs or non cops out of LEO only groups. Once someone gets the little gold badge they can modify their profile to show that they are cops.


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KSP494 says ...



RetiredCop says ...



KSP494 says ...



Since the changing of LEO verification to restricted access verification, and giving the little gold badge to non-LEOs on this site, is PL coming up with a way for LEOs to identify other real LEOs now or should we expect PL to continue the way it is currently? It was a great asset to look at profiles and see if who we are talking to is privy to LE sensitive information. This seems to be a slight security risk.



I THINK the in order to utilize the Restricted Access area you have to be a verified LEO. However, the HR218 IS NOT what PL uses for the verification process. From what I understand, they use a BROADER interpretation which includes some "professions" that are not covered by HR218. I am sure someone will offer a clear explanation eventually.



The problem with that broader view is now we have to figure out a way to keep non LEOs or non cops out of LEO only groups. Once someone gets the little gold badge they can modify their profile to show that they are cops.



They are in a lot of the so-called LEO only groups. Verified LEO group has guys in there that don't even have the little gold star and apparently you can get one out of the bubble gum machine!

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KSP494 says ...



Since the changing of LEO verification to restricted access verification, and giving the little gold badge to non-LEOs on this site, is PL coming up with a way for LEOs to identify other real LEOs now or should we expect PL to continue the way it is currently? It was a great asset to look at profiles and see if who we are talking to is privy to LE sensitive information. This seems to be a slight security risk.



I THINK the in order to utilize the Restricted Access area you have to be a verified LEO. However, the HR218 IS NOT what PL uses for the verification process. From what I understand, they use a BROADER interpretation which includes some "professions" that are not covered by HR218. I am sure someone will offer a clear explanation eventually.



There is no "Broader" interpretation, you are either an LEO under HR218 or you ain't! Thats it, done! Somebody needs to get it together round here!


Just one of the philosophies I did not agree with. That is just one of the reasons for my stepping down. I firmly believe that HR218 is what should be used as the benchmark however I don't own the joint. HR218 would keep down the numbers of those eligible by PL standards. I just could never figure out what exactly the "broader" interpretation was. Maybe someone in the know can give the exact interpretation to avoid all the confusion on the site??????


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Lulusgt says ...



KSP494 says ...



RetiredCop says ...



KSP494 says ...



Since the changing of LEO verification to restricted access verification, and giving the little gold badge to non-LEOs on this site, is PL coming up with a way for LEOs to identify other real LEOs now or should we expect PL to continue the way it is currently? It was a great asset to look at profiles and see if who we are talking to is privy to LE sensitive information. This seems to be a slight security risk.



I THINK the in order to utilize the Restricted Access area you have to be a verified LEO. However, the HR218 IS NOT what PL uses for the verification process. From what I understand, they use a BROADER interpretation which includes some "professions" that are not covered by HR218. I am sure someone will offer a clear explanation eventually.



The problem with that broader view is now we have to figure out a way to keep non LEOs or non cops out of LEO only groups. Once someone gets the little gold badge they can modify their profile to show that they are cops.



They are in a lot of the so-called LEO only groups. Verified LEO group has guys in there that don't even have the little gold star and apparently you can get one out of the bubble gum machine!



Wasn't it the home lab rat that made it into several LEO only groups?


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Ask a simple question as only an LEO would know.......For instance a sign off 10 code or a sign on 10 code or a code that identifies your status. I've been an LEO for 15 years and could tell by the demenor of the comment's.............

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Ask a simple question as only an LEO would know.......For instance a sign off 10 code or a sign on 10 code or a code that identifies your status. I've been an LEO for 15 years and could tell by the demenor of the comment's.............



But so could a dispatcher or some super wannabe with a scanner. Besides codes are different state to state even within the state I'm in. In the county I work Signal 8 means disregard to me but to the SO in that county Sig 8 means emergency


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I heard via the grapevine you can get a gold star here at PL if you watch a lot of cop shows.   That's the same thing as going through a police academy, passing an FTO program,  risking your life on the streets, right?   What does a silly badge mean anyway.  Let's send out coupons for PL badges in the weekly mail flyers. 

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Its a crap shoot


“There are more good men than evil, and while the latter
cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by
propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men
with their rifles.”


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I appreciate everyone's passion, I'm not trying to start a whirlwind and I don't want this thread locked because of the posts. I would just like to understand the changes. It just seems like we all ask for something including the mods and the exact opposite happens. Why?


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KSP494 says ...



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Ask a simple question as only an LEO would know.......For instance a sign off 10 code or a sign on 10 code or a code that identifies your status. I've been an LEO for 15 years and could tell by the demenor of the comment's.............



But so could a dispatcher or some super wannabe with a scanner. Besides codes are different state to state even within the state I'm in. In the county I work Signal 8 means disregard to me but to the SO in that county Sig 8 means emergency



Sig 8 is a missing person here! So that theory sucks! Sorry that was a little gruff.

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Methinks that some comon sense is Sig 8!!!


“There are more good men than evil, and while the latter
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propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men
with their rifles.”


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Methinks that some comon sense is Sig 8!!!



You got that right!

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guys please don't get my thread locked before I get a response, remember that whole catching flies with honey thing?


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The scary thing is that some of the problems recently have turned out to be LEO being less than forthright.....KSP got one and Robo got the other. Both were padding or adding to their persona I guess.  Then add the wana be types and trolls etc and it is hard to tell unless you know someone that can verify who the person is.....


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When I got my job as a SG and went to update my profile I noticed there was a heading for LEO/Private Security.  I asked the Sarge before I completed updating my profile, mainly because of this very problem.  I didn't wan to inadvertantly step on any of the real LEOs proverbial toes and wind up pissing off everyone or stirring up trouble.  I think, and this is just my own personal observation, is that some get on here and they get a power trip with their jobs - especially those who are non-leo and think they should be or want to be - or they are just plan nut jobs.  gpd mentioned he could tell by the demeanor of some of the comments made by so called LEOs and I'd have to agree with him.  Sometimes you can just tell by the way a person speaks or responds who they really are or how much validity they carry.  I think it's awful you guys have to put up with this kind of cr** just to defend the integrity of this site and your profession from all the impostors or wannabes out there.


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KSP, thanks for this post as I had not realized it had changed.  I have been continuing to look at the badge as a verified LEO but I guess I'll be changing the way I look at people on here...again.

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They are very busy fixing PL, they have not been able to respond to my questions about verification for several weeks. I'm sure when they have time they will get to it. Goodnight all please don't get my thread locked.


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They are very busy fixing PL, they have not been able to respond to my questions about verification for several weeks. I'm sure when they have time they will get to it. Goodnight all please don't get my thread locked.



We will try to control ourselves, but can make no promises.  Nighty night.

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well im not a LEO, so thats a start, who's next lmao

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guys please don't get my thread locked before I get a response, remember that whole catching flies with honey thing?



Holy Crap Chris said please.........dude you just made me fall outta my chair!!.....


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