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Posted almost 6 years ago

 

In light of the story on the front page of this site about Criminals Impersonating Police officers, raised the question again in my head about the feasibility of Departments using unmarked patrol vehicles.  I know there are times when they may be necessary, and I'm not refering to Detectives/Criminal Investigators when I say this, my thoughts are that if you are in a job where you will be routinely stopping traffic should you be in a marked car. My former Department, I am retired, at one time had a policy of 50-50 ratio of marked to un marked cars. It was later cut back to 80-20 marked over unmarked.  Supervisors were towards the end of my career given a choice, thru the rank of F/Sgt. By choice I spent my last several years in a marked vehicle.  I know this is not a cure all, just wondering what other agencies out there are doing.  I for one would be really skeptical this day and time of pulling over for a unmarked car, especially at night.


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We have a few unmarked working an aggressive driver campaign. They are fully lit up though when they are stopping a vehicle and there is always a marked unit in the area. We also have a policy that if you are in an unmarked you must be in full uniform to stop someone. I drive an unmarked, and am generally in fully utility uniform. As a rule I don't stop anyone unless it's really a hazardous situation.


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Rate This | Posted almost 6 years ago

 

I work as a Traffic Homicide Investigator, therefore I am assigned to the Traffic Unit. Currently we do not use unmarked cars for Traffic Enforecement. We have used slick tops, but no unmarked units. I have been asking about having an unmarked vehicle, but it is not looking promising.


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Rate This | Posted almost 6 years ago

 

I used to run traffic in an unmarked unit (a Ford Explorer none the less), but I was always in uniform. Luckily enough, I never encountered an incident where someone wouldn't stop, or didn't respond to the lights and siren. I see your point about stopping for one these days though. I loved the unmarked vehicle because it was just so darned effective. When I had a unmarked Crown Vic, I threw an orange hard hat up on the rear deck. People always thought I was an inspector or DOT guy.

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Rate This | Posted almost 6 years ago

 

I would hesitate to stop for an unmarked, strobe in the window vehicle unless I was in an area where others were about. Police looking uniforms are to easy to come by. I would probably call 911 and ask if it were a reat LEO behind me!


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Bethcr says ...



I would hesitate to stop for an unmarked, strobe in the window vehicle unless I was in an area where others were about. Police looking uniforms are to easy to come by. I would probably call 911 and ask if it were a reat LEO behind me!


 


I would hope the majority of LEO's would understand that. Just signal to them somehow, emergency flashers etc, that you plan to pull over as soon as you feel safe. Helps relax the cop and doesn't make it look like you are running. In this day and age, it's a smart thing to do.



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Rate This | Posted almost 6 years ago

 

Unmarked vehicles are not allowed to initiate a traffic stop in Georgia. In my humble opinion, this should be universal.

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My department utilizes slick tops for all traffic cars,  we have several adjoining jurisidictions that do utilize unmarked cars for areas of aggressive driving patrols.  I believe both have there purpose and time for use.  Unmarked cars do perfrom well in our area.  We have had several PSA's also on TV about what actions to take if you are not sure it is really a patrol car trying to stop you.

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Rate This | Posted almost 6 years ago

 

Here's an image of a Canadian "stealth" traffic unit.... note the subdued markings... I thought it was kinda cool...



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Rate This | Posted over 5 years ago

 

No unmarked patrol units at my PD. It is against policy for any officer to use an unmarked unit to make a traffic stop uless it is a matter of life or death. I told my wife to pull into a busy gas station or Walmart parking lot near the front doors if she is ever pulled over by a blue light in the window of an unmarked car. We had a few cases were someone was using a blue strobe on the dash to pull people over on the highway to commit a robbery or some type of assault. I checked with other departments in my area and no one uses unmarked units for traffic stops.

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Rate This | Posted about 4 years ago

 

The assistant police chief in my city drives an unmarked vehicle,and makes traffic stops very often.He has dash/deck lights,as well as mirror led's.

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can you get in trouble for not stopping right away  lets say if you were on a country road and no one was in sight.  ive seen a couple of videos where the officers get really upset for not stopping.

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I work for two agencies.  Both do not have unmarked police vehicles for routine patrol.  Unmarked cars or department assigned vehicles are for investigations and Bosses (ie:  Chief, Under Sheriff, Sheriff, etc...).


This was a result of incidents involving State Police with unmarked vehicles that patrolled the interstates and general public who had onwership of old unmarked vehicles or cars similar that would pull females over impersonating law enforcement officials.


 


 

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dejoe says ...



can you get in trouble for not stopping right away  lets say if you were on a country road and no one was in sight.  ive seen a couple of videos where the officers get really upset for not stopping.



Yes and no.  Are you going to get into trouble if you drive another 10 or 20 miles until to get to the next city/town?  Yeah probably.  Are you going to get into trouble for driving an extra mile so you can get safely onto the shoulder w/o being a traffic hazard or perhaps you can pull into someone's driveway?  Probably not.  If you are concerned you are being stopped a phony cop call 911 ask them if one of the on duty officers are making a stop where you are at?  By the time you see the lights most officers around here have already called out there stop so dispatch would have that info.  If not they'll braodcast the question over the air.  If it turns out to be a phony cop chances are they have a scanner will hear the question and will know the game is up and move along.  If not you are already online with 911 to coordinate the phony cop to be hooked and booked.


Ideally you want to stop someplace public and open with lots of street lights.  I am SOOO tired of people stopping in the middle of the damn road.  Find the closet safe place to pull off the travelled portion of the roadway.


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In my area, the unmarked cars call for  a marked car to pull a car over. From what i understand this becamea policy with the different Agencies after a few imposters pulled women over. I have also been instructed by LEOs if an unmarked does try to pull me over to turn my emergency flashers on and call 911 and ask that they confirm it is an Officer pulling me over

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Scurge says ...



dejoe says ...



can you get in trouble for not stopping right away  lets say if you were on a country road and no one was in sight.  ive seen a couple of videos where the officers get really upset for not stopping.



Yes and no.  Are you going to get into trouble if you drive another 10 or 20 miles until to get to the next city/town?  Yeah probably.  Are you going to get into trouble for driving an extra mile so you can get safely onto the shoulder w/o being a traffic hazard or perhaps you can pull into someone's driveway?  Probably not.  If you are concerned you are being stopped a phony cop call 911 ask them if one of the on duty officers are making a stop where you are at?  By the time you see the lights most officers around here have already called out there stop so dispatch would have that info.  If not they'll braodcast the question over the air.  If it turns out to be a phony cop chances are they have a scanner will hear the question and will know the game is up and move along.  If not you are already online with 911 to coordinate the phony cop to be hooked and booked.


Ideally you want to stop someplace public and open with lots of street lights.  I am SOOO tired of people stopping in the middle of the damn road.  Find the closet safe place to pull off the travelled portion of the roadway.


 


Not only that, but pull over to the right side of the road. I have seen many times where people are in the fast lane and pull to the left side of the roadway and act so surprised that they get chewed out for that as well.