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Posted almost 5 years ago Hi, I hope everyone is well, I have a quick question that is common sense but I just wanted to get your opinions. The reason why is I am trying to prepare for my oral interview, if you all could answer in the way as if you were in the oral interview. Thanks so much for anyone who helps and help would be greatly appreciated. You are a police officer who pulls over a red car for speeding. When approaching the driver’s side you notice a male who is the driver and his wife who is in labor, you then notice that the car has expired registration tags. 1. would you give them a police escort to the hospital and there write the husband a ticket for the expired registration tag after the wife has safely arrived in the hospital, or 2. Would you give them a police escort to the hospital and let the expired registration violation go. The answer I think the oral board would want to hear would be 1. The reason why I would say 1. Is because you are not going to write him a citation for speeding because he was rushing his wife to the hospital, but the expired registration has no excuse. 2. I don’t think is the correct answer because it does not even give the man a warning it just for gets about the entire violation which I think is wrong. |
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| Posted almost 5 years ago sorry but i would NOT give an escort to the hospital. think about the responsibility there. the cruiser goes through the red light with lights and siren going and everyone stops. next is your car with your pregnant wife inside and here comes someone with their head up their but and slams into you. your wife and child die. now what do you do? you take my job, my house, my car, and every other last possession that i ever thought i had. not my fault it happened. i was just trying to be a good guy and help out a civilian. sorry but its not going to happen. now to answer your question as to the citation for an expired registration tag....i have better things to do - and so do you at that time - rather than to worry about a tag out of date. be on your way! be safe! and good luck! MODERATOR #7 |
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| Posted almost 5 years ago How about let them go, call EMS and the hospital and advise of the situation. HC is right about the liability issues too. |
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| Posted almost 5 years ago Police44 says ...
None of the above. Call for an ambulance and provide a verbal warning for the registration infraction. You dont have to write a ticket for every situation. Dont escort medical emergencies. .......If you have a bad cough, take a large dose of laxatives, then you will be afraid to cough !!! |
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| Posted almost 5 years ago true i would actually probably put her in the back of my patrol car with the husband in the back, About the violation, just wondering if i was taking the oral should i say that i would forget about the violation or would i say i would write the violation after the wife has safly arrived. I ma just making sure, thanks guys so much for your help. |
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| Posted almost 5 years ago for tbaby for my question was for the two choices 1. or 2. but thank you for your help. |
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| Posted almost 5 years ago Police44 says ...
Sounds like you are going to do it your way regardless of what we have told you. Carry-on.... |
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| Posted almost 5 years ago no, not at all i just wanted to share mt reasoning for the question, thank you for your help and i will take i will now know how to answer if a question like this pops up on my oral. |
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| Posted almost 5 years ago Having set on Oral review boards for several years in my career, I can tell you the answer to your question is #3., unless in the unlikely event that department isn't concerned about civil liability. I'm sure different agencies have different policies and procedures, but the question is designed to see if you have done your homework and how bad you want this job. If you have researched their policies, you would most likely find that the policy prohibits escorts, I know mine did. Therefore, neither 1 or 2 could be correct. They are judging you on how you think off the cuff. Secondly, if you got this question from someone who's previously been interviewed, beware! One, it's a competion, and I know on more than one occasion other applicants have tired to give people wrong answers intentionally, but that aside, there are usually a series of more than 5 or 10 questions, and they pick different questions for different applicants. Support bacteria. They're the only culture some people have. |
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| Posted almost 5 years ago i typed to fast for my last poast |
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| Posted almost 5 years ago NO TICKET AND CALL EMS FOR HELP |
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| Posted almost 4 years ago No ticket. Call EMS. No escort, assuming way too much liability. |
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| Posted almost 4 years ago Absolutely call EMS to the scene, no escort, no way......Verbal on the infraction or let it go, it's called discretion. Perception is greater than reality. |
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| Posted about 3 years ago Police44 says ...
WAIT! You're gonna put a woman, in labor, in the back of a Patrol car, with her husband? You're retarded. I hope you never make it out on the streets. |
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Anonymous
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| Posted about 3 years ago I've got a deal worked out with the local FD/Ambulance people, I' dont do transports/escorts on medical patients and they don't do traffic stops in the ambulance or fire trucks, everyone is happy with this. |
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| Posted about 3 years ago It's called DISCRETION. Just say no to the little registration deal, call EMS and advise. You open yourself up to all kinds of potential litigation escorting for tis type of "emergency". If you are THAT concerned about this couple then call EMS and advise and if the baby just won't wait, don your gloves and be prepared to do a special delivery yourself. The potential for harm is much less and you won't be running code for a non-emergency. You can't cure stupid. |
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| Posted about 3 years ago Call EMS, wish the new parent the best and send them on there way. He's get a pass on the registration. |
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| Posted about 3 years ago I don't think they want you to pick and option 3, but imagine if you knew the Depts policy and answered accordingly. That would be BA. I'm gonna check that out for next time. As for your question, discretion seems to be the theme. |
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| Posted about 3 years ago I would check to make sure she didn't have a pillow under her shirt. No just kidding. I couldn't help it. |
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| Posted about 3 years ago First off before you have an oral board you usually have a written sample- please learn how to spell scenario... I know a lot of times I am spelling things wrong- usually from very fast typing... But when asking a question of this magnitude maybe some spell check is a good idea... ALSO don't tell an officer he only has choice a or choice b... dumb if you ask me. I'd say you could shove it, zombie... but remember every call is DIFFERENT, every 10-38 or traffic stop is DIFFERENT!!! IT'S always new people and a new SCENARIO... so remember sometimes it's not cut and dry... and when it is a medical situation EMS is the best to call... I know- i use to be EMS... thank you have a great day- and don't let zombies get to your brains...
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| Posted about 3 years ago EMS and no citation. Unless of course it's the end of the month and I'm a couple of tickets short on my "management goal". (we don't have quotas) Beyond fatigue lies compensatory hypertrophy |
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| Posted about 3 years ago Neither of your answers address the original reason for the stop, which was the speeding. Is there a reason for this? None of the answers are good ones. Not choice 1, 2, or throwing them in the back of the patrol vehicle. Every Officer has discretion and would use it in this as well as any other scenario you present. PL Mentoring Team Member |
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| Posted about 3 years ago It's a little slow on PL tonight so how about this one guys? I disagree with the correct answer and was wondering if you guys had any thoughts. You receive a noise complaint call. The reporting party states that the people behind him have been partying all night and it’s after hours. He demands that the neighbors receive a ticket. You approach the house with the noise disturbance and are greeted by an elderly man who invites you inside. He states that he and his wife are celebrating their 55th wedding anniversary. How would you handle this situation?
a) Dont issue a citation b) Tell the neighbor who complained that the music has been turned off for the night and that the neighbor will not receive a citation. c) Demand that he turns off the music and issue a citiation. d) Go back on your normal duties and ignore the complaint. I went with B being the most appropriate and D being the least. I was wrong. Turn out that C is the most appropriate and A is the least. Do you guys agree with that? Is it because the neighbor demanded that he receive a ticket? Is it not B bcause the officer has not yet talked to the violaters, thus he is blowing off the call? |
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| Posted about 3 years ago you don't have to tell the complaintant whether or not a citation was issued. PL's Dedicated Vetting Agent |
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| Posted about 3 years ago How I typically handle that type of situation was not listed. I show up explain that being quieter is necessary and will be enforced in by other means should I need to return. I DO NOT need to write every violation in order to gain compliance. With the option listed I'd go with A and D. Like I said a verbal warning may be more appropriate in that situation and ignoring it would be the least appropriate. Who said demanding compliance and issuing a citation was the most appropriate? This is ignorant at face value. What is the history of this residence. If it's the 1st time LE has been there, esp on a noise complaint, how will this effect the relationship with local LE with an otherwise law abiding couple. Pretty poor community relations I think. If by policy I was required to issue the citation because the comp demanded it then the violator will be aware of who made the complaint. Besides since when do comps decide who is being cited or not? NEVER last I heard You have the rest of your life to solve the problem, how long your life lasts depends on how well you do it. -Clint Smith
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Anonymous
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| Posted about 3 years ago I virtually never issue a citation on the first visit, i ask for voluntary compliance (turn down noise), and advise if I get additional complaints a citation could be issued, with the answers given, i would have to go with "A". Is this a test question or from an oral interview type situation? i would say that "C" is the least apppropriate response. |
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| Posted about 3 years ago Scurge says ...
I'm with you Scurge. It would appear that issuing a ticket is not necessary, not taking into account unknown factors such as the call history of the residence. Surely the worst option IMO is ignoring the call and returning to your duties, which was not the correct choice according to the answer sheet. This is one question from a practice exam from a city PD website and they list C and A as the correct answers. |
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Anonymous
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| Posted about 3 years ago I am just going to say: The SCENARIO -and given choices- may not exactly apply with the jurisdictions I am familiar with. That said, i just like to point out: Sorry, no escort... Yes, you'll get a summons, but that would be 2nd priority... I'll call a "bus" (NYPD=Ambulance) Or... The female will be transfered to the RMP (NYPD=Patrol Car) for a ride to the closest Hospital... P.S. The NYPD has a long... long history of babies born on the back of an RMP... LOL. |
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Anonymous
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| Posted about 3 years ago elaken says ...
My answers are based strictly on your senerio information, since call history doesn't apply or other unknown factors. |
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| Posted about 3 years ago Casscocop says ...
Not an oral board, just a practice written test I took a while back. Do you mean you would choose B as the most appropriate? |
