Law Enforcement Specialties >> State Police & Highway patrol >> Ticket issued ... need guidance...

Rate

Ticket issued ... need guidance...

1,731 Views
67 Replies Flag as inappropriate
Photo_user_blank_big

1 post

back to top

Posted about 6 years ago

 

A while ago, I was coming home from a doctor's appointment & had my cruise control set at 56 mph.  I was almost at my turn into my subdivision when I noticed a State police car on the other side of the highway with his lights on and going the opposite direction.  Upon turning into my subdivision, I noticed the blue flashing lights in my rear view mirror & stopped my vehicle.  There is no shoulder on the road I was on so the officer blocked the road with his car.  As he approached my vehicle, he asked if I had seen him on the highway with his lights on & I responded that I did see him, but thought that he was going after someone on that side of the highway.  He said "no, ma'am I clocked you, in a silver SUV, going 72 in a 55 mile pe hour zone.   I told him I had my cruise control on & he said I should get it checked, but he still gave me a ticket, having used his radar.   He did not even ask me for proof of insurance or registration, just my driver's license.   I'm pretty upset about this, as I am undergoing medical problems, and this has completely caused me to go into a panic attack and going into a depression.  I had to cancel another doctor's appointment for that afternoon because I was so upset.   If I want to contest this ticket I have to go to court in a month.  Is it even worth going to court to protest the officer's word against mine??   My insurance just went down because I have had a "good driver's" record for the past 10 years.  I am devastated.   Any advice from anyone in the law enforcement community.

Bulldogdep_max50

1403 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted about 6 years ago

 

It is you absolute right to go and contest the citation, if that is what you wish to do.  On the other hand, however,  it's just a ticket.  It's not the end of the world.  No need to be depressed about it or even lose any sleep over it.  I will tell you that more than likely you will lose in court.  the radar technology has been proven time and time again to be pretty much infallible.  You may also look to see if your jurisdiction offers a deferral program.  Otherwise pay the ticket, quit speeding and have a safe day.


In Honor of the Fallen.

-714 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted about 6 years ago

 

3 options.....


1) Pay the Ticket


2) Go to drivers school


3) Go to court


 


Those are the options in FL, I am sure your options might not be the exact same, but similar.

N1202178746_305955_5462_max50

7594 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted about 6 years ago

 

dancinggranny26 says ...



A while ago, I was coming home from a doctor's appointment & had my cruise control set at 56 mph.  I was almost at my turn into my subdivision when I noticed a State police car on the other side of the highway with his lights on and going the opposite direction.  Upon turning into my subdivision, I noticed the blue flashing lights in my rear view mirror & stopped my vehicle.  There is no shoulder on the road I was on so the officer blocked the road with his car.  As he approached my vehicle, he asked if I had seen him on the highway with his lights on & I responded that I did see him, but thought that he was going after someone on that side of the highway.  He said "no, ma'am I clocked you, in a silver SUV, going 72 in a 55 mile pe hour zone.   I told him I had my cruise control on & he said I should get it checked, but he still gave me a ticket, having used his radar.   He did not even ask me for proof of insurance or registration, just my driver's license.   I'm pretty upset about this, as I am undergoing medical problems, and this has completely caused me to go into a panic attack and going into a depression.  I had to cancel another doctor's appointment for that afternoon because I was so upset.   If I want to contest this ticket I have to go to court in a month.  Is it even worth going to court to protest the officer's word against mine??   My insurance just went down because I have had a "good driver's" record for the past 10 years.  I am devastated.   Any advice from anyone in the law enforcement community.



On what grounds do you wish to contest the citation? I will say that cruise control being set is irrelevant due to the fact that setting cruise control does not prevent your car from speeding up if you step on the gas. The fact that he did not ask for your registration and insurance is irrelevant as well, he does not have to ask for them if he chooses not to. So what is it about the citation you are contesting? I don't know about all states just mine, but I have to give a visual estimation of the speed first then verify it with radar or laser, so most times the officer already knows how fast you were going with 5 MPH. As the other officer said, unless you have some way of proving your case you wont win in court and it will cost you more money most likely and a day off of work or whatever you were doing.


Pain is weakness leaving the body.

Obstacles are what we see when we take our eyes off the goal.

Cot_max50

3423 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted about 6 years ago

 

her name is dancinggranny26 right?  now with a name like that you would expect a spunky older woman and not someone who goes into panic attacks and depression over a speeding ticket.  atleast i would think so.  its your right to contest the ticket.  do what you think you need to do.  as far as him not asking for your registration or insurance, well to each his own.  i have never seen in any manual that these items must be asked for by an officer.  maybe he was giving you the benefit of the doubt by assuming that since you were such a law biding citizen that you had insurance.  the registration can be as simple as running your tag when you were stopped and he didnt feel the need to ask you for papers that he didnt need.  as far as using the excuse that your cruise control was on and there was no way you were speeding, well you see how far that got you.  that is probably the oldest excuse in the book of speeding or atleast in the top 3.  it just dont cut it with officers.  honesty usually does pay off with a warning....not excuses.


and as far as being DEVASTATED, well, get over it!  its a speeding ticket!  far from the end of the world! 


MODERATOR #7

Photo_user_banned_big

18 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted about 6 years ago

 

Does it carry points? I would assume so. In most states if you go to court, plead guilty with an explaination, and you haven,t had any infractions in 10 years, most judges will drop the points. Most insurance companies only penalize you for points. Good luck and get your speedo checked. Most people would notice a big difference between 56 mph and 70 something....

Cot_max50

3423 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted about 6 years ago

 

smartz says ...


Does it carry points? I would assume so. In most states if you go to court, plead guilty with an explaination, and you haven,t had any infractions in 10 years, most judges will drop the points. Most insurance companies only penalize you for points. Good luck and get your speedo checked. Most people would notice a big difference between 56 mph and 70 something....

EASY THERE!  dont hurt yourself.


MODERATOR #7

N1202178746_305955_5462_max50

7594 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted about 6 years ago

 

smartz says ...


Does it carry points? I would assume so. In most states if you go to court, plead guilty with an explaination, and you haven,t had any infractions in 10 years, most judges will drop the points. Most insurance companies only penalize you for points. Good luck and get your speedo checked. Most people would notice a big difference between 56 mph and 70 something....

And you came by this information how? Have you been doing extensive research on how courts across the country are disposing of cases? A judge can reduce the citation which will in turn reduce the points and fine if that's what the judge chooses to do. As far as what most judges do, I think that information is unqualified.


Pain is weakness leaving the body.

Obstacles are what we see when we take our eyes off the goal.

Gator_max50

5483 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted about 6 years ago

 

smartz says ...


Does it carry points? I would assume so. In most states if you go to court, plead guilty with an explaination, and you haven,t had any infractions in 10 years, most judges will drop the points. Most insurance companies only penalize you for points. Good luck and get your speedo checked. Most people would notice a big difference between 56 mph and 70 something....

I'm pretty sure that you being from Maryland, you're not that well equipped to speak on behalf of the Florida judicial system! However, given the fact that you are not even an LEO, much less a Trooper, and you're answering questions in the Highway Patrol/State Police page I can only assume that you must pretty much know it all!

N1202178746_305955_5462_max50

7594 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted about 6 years ago

 

Lulusgt says ...



smartz says ...


Does it carry points? I would assume so. In most states if you go to court, plead guilty with an explaination, and you haven,t had any infractions in 10 years, most judges will drop the points. Most insurance companies only penalize you for points. Good luck and get your speedo checked. Most people would notice a big difference between 56 mph and 70 something....

I'm pretty sure that you being from Maryland, you're not that well equipped to speak on behalf of the Florida judicial system! However, given the fact that you are not even an LEO, much less a Trooper, and you're answering questions in the Highway Patrol/State Police page I can only assume that you must pretty much know it all!



ummm that's the STATE POLICE/ highway patrol page.


Pain is weakness leaving the body.

Obstacles are what we see when we take our eyes off the goal.

Dapd2_0_max50

738 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted about 6 years ago

 

Probably not worth the time and effort to fight it in court, but that is entirely up to you.


Pay the fine and move on (but a little bit slower from now on).


"Learn from the mistakes of others. You can't live long enough to make them all yourself." - Eleanor Roosevelt

Gator_max50

5483 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted about 6 years ago

 

KSP494 says ...



Lulusgt says ...



smartz says ...


Does it carry points? I would assume so. In most states if you go to court, plead guilty with an explaination, and you haven,t had any infractions in 10 years, most judges will drop the points. Most insurance companies only penalize you for points. Good luck and get your speedo checked. Most people would notice a big difference between 56 mph and 70 something....

I'm pretty sure that you being from Maryland, you're not that well equipped to speak on behalf of the Florida judicial system! However, given the fact that you are not even an LEO, much less a Trooper, and you're answering questions in the Highway Patrol/State Police page I can only assume that you must pretty much know it all!



ummm that's the STATE POLICE/ highway patrol page.



Aww geez, meathead, quit pushing symantics! You're killing me!

Alone_max50

116 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted about 6 years ago

 

nikkochey says ...



you need to go to LawyerLink as very few of us are licensed to practice law.



Nikkochey is right on... Why would you come to a law enforcement website to ask our advice in this matter? This is a question for a traffic attorney. We weren't there, we don't know the charging officer's observations or their point of view, and we don't know if you're leaving something out. Lastly, you certainly won't hear me telling you that he's wrong, because I don't want to get your hopes up that you'll win the case or get it reduced based on a perfect stranger's understanding of the facts.


Cowards never try, and the weak die along the way.

Marvin_martian_max50

3379 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted about 6 years ago

 

deputy_dawg_16 says ...



It is you absolute right to go and contest the citation, if that is what you wish to do.  On the other hand, however,  it's just a ticket.  It's not the end of the world.  No need to be depressed about it or even lose any sleep over it.  I will tell you that more than likely you will lose in court.  the radar technology has been proven time and time again to be pretty much infallible.  You may also look to see if your jurisdiction offers a deferral program.  Otherwise pay the ticket, quit speeding and have a safe day.



Well said.  It's just a ticket, it's not the end of the world. You will probably (almost without a doubt) lose in court.  Pay the ticket, quit speeding, have a safe day.


Go out today and preach the gospel, and if you must, use words. St. Francis of Assisi

Photo_user_banned_big

18 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted about 6 years ago

 

God forbid someone actually try to get points reduced on their first ticket in 10 years.....the level of perfection by some on this site is amazing! I actually spent 3 summers sitting in traffic court with my Uncle who was a Judge in Maryland. It was his opinion, according to conversations he had with several other Judges in other States, that when most good drivers are willing to show up on a ticket with points, and they have had a clean record for quite some time, most, I never said all, Judges will reduce or remove the points. Not to mention, My father was a Leutenant in my local PD and 2 brothers were Seargents. All shared the same opinion and gave the same advice. So yes I did have some experience with this matter.....Jeez! Sorry for the late post but I have been on vacation...

N1202178746_305955_5462_max50

7594 posts

back to top
+1

Rated +1 | Posted about 6 years ago

 

smartz says ...



God forbid someone actually try to get points reduced on their first ticket in 10 years.....the level of perfection by some on this site is amazing! I actually spent 3 summers sitting in traffic court with my Uncle who was a Judge in Maryland. It was his opinion, according to conversations he had with several other Judges in other States, that when most good drivers are willing to show up on a ticket with points, and they have had a clean record for quite some time, most, I never said all, Judges will reduce or remove the points. Not to mention, My father was a Leutenant in my local PD and 2 brothers were Seargents. All shared the same opinion and gave the same advice. So yes I did have some experience with this matter.....Jeez! Sorry for the late post but I have been on vacation...



I think that you have stepped out of line here.


Pain is weakness leaving the body.

Obstacles are what we see when we take our eyes off the goal.

Avatar_7444_max50

114 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted about 6 years ago

 

In NY every county and city has their own way of dealing with summonses.  I don't know how it is where you live so I won't try and comment on that but the issue that I have is why would the trooper go so out his way to get behind you and pull you over if you were not the car he observed.  The other thing is most people I stop have excuses as to why it couldn't be them.  When infact I observed it happen.  To get so sick over a ticket is silly, go to court if you please.  Resolve yourself to the fact, most likely you will have to pay the fine.

Avatar_7444_max50

114 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted about 6 years ago

 

smartz says ...



God forbid someone actually try to get points reduced on their first ticket in 10 years.....the level of perfection by some on this site is amazing! I actually spent 3 summers sitting in traffic court with my Uncle who was a Judge in Maryland. It was his opinion, according to conversations he had with several other Judges in other States, that when most good drivers are willing to show up on a ticket with points, and they have had a clean record for quite some time, most, I never said all, Judges will reduce or remove the points. Not to mention, My father was a Leutenant in my local PD and 2 brothers were Seargents. All shared the same opinion and gave the same advice. So yes I did have some experience with this matter.....Jeez! Sorry for the late post but I have been on vacation...



My father is a Army veteran and fought in Vietnam,  my partner is a Air Force vet., and my cousin is also a Army vet.  I know all three of these people well. However, I was NEVER in the military, so therefore I have not earned the right nor do I have the knowledge or experience to go and speak on their behalf or comment on military issues in regards to FACT.  Get my point?

-1292 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted about 6 years ago

 

smartz says ...



God forbid someone actually try to get points reduced on their first ticket in 10 years.....the level of perfection by some on this site is amazing! I actually spent 3 summers sitting in traffic court with my Uncle who was a Judge in Maryland. It was his opinion, according to conversations he had with several other Judges in other States, that when most good drivers are willing to show up on a ticket with points, and they have had a clean record for quite some time, most, I never said all, Judges will reduce or remove the points. Not to mention, My father was a Leutenant in my local PD and 2 brothers were Seargents. All shared the same opinion and gave the same advice. So yes I did have some experience with this matter.....Jeez! Sorry for the late post but I have been on vacation...



====================================


God forbid someone actually try to get off of a murder charge on their first charge in 20 years. WTF!! My wife and I are actually married and I was in the Marine Corps for 21 plus years. Her brothers were in the Air Force And Army for 26 years and 21 years respectively so I guess she has a total of 68 years military experience huh? Give me a break. My mom was a nurse for 38 years my sis has been a nurse for 28 years and my wife for almost 35 years. I have 101 years nursing experience . Hell I could put a bandaid on you or a tourniqit around your neck. but that's about it. Adam Henry crawl back under what ever Rock you crawled out from under.

-1019 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted about 6 years ago

 

Now it's TRUCKDRIVERLINK!

Nypd_helicopter_max50

507 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted about 6 years ago

 

I'm just curious, having never used or been taught on any radar or laser equipment. Can a trooper moving in the opposite direction on a divided highway actually utilize a radar device? Don't they have to be stationary to use radar?

-1292 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted about 6 years ago

 

Stationary or mobil moving towards you or traveling away from you opposite direction.

N1202178746_305955_5462_max50

7594 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted about 6 years ago

 

NYPD_Blue says ...



I'm just curious, having never used or been taught on any radar or laser equipment. Can a trooper moving in the opposite direction on a divided highway actually utilize a radar device? Don't they have to be stationary to use radar?



No, I have been using moving radar since 1991. STALKER, and now have a STALKER DSR-2X which has 5 digital displays. I can be moving or stationary and can get traffic moving towards me or away from me in front and in back of me and I can get all four at the same time, it's sweet. You must have been out of circulation for sometime.


Pain is weakness leaving the body.

Obstacles are what we see when we take our eyes off the goal.

Alone_max50

116 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted about 6 years ago

 

You've got 101 years of nursing experience Nikkochey? Great! 'Cause I have a....friend, with an unusual rash....   Just kidding, but good point.


Cowards never try, and the weak die along the way.

100_0228_max160_max50

1373 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted about 6 years ago

 

The information you are getting is from Officers with many years of experience I have 22 years and I am retired so here is my expert opinion and I will go slowly so you can understand it P  a   y      t     h    e      t    i    c   k    e    t  Thank you


Only God knows his plans for all of us and why we might meet in life

Cjett__1__max50

46 posts

back to top
+1

Rated +1 | Posted about 6 years ago

 

Getting stopped by a law enforcement officer made you go into a panic attack and depression?  If that's the case, whether or not you were speeding is the least of your problems.  Pay the ticket.  I would hate for you to have post-traumatic flashbacks in the middle of the trial.

-412 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted about 6 years ago

 

smartz says ...



God forbid someone actually try to get points reduced on their first ticket in 10 years.....the level of perfection by some on this site is amazing! I actually spent 3 summers sitting in traffic court with my Uncle who was a Judge in Maryland. It was his opinion, according to conversations he had with several other Judges in other States, that when most good drivers are willing to show up on a ticket with points, and they have had a clean record for quite some time, most, I never said all, Judges will reduce or remove the points. Not to mention, My father was a Leutenant in my local PD and 2 brothers were Seargents. All shared the same opinion and gave the same advice. So yes I did have some experience with this matter.....Jeez! Sorry for the late post but I have been on vacation...



Obviously your uncle failed to talk with a judge in Virginia. Judges can't reduce points in VA as they are assigned by the Department of Motor Vehicles and not the court...

N1202178746_305955_5462_max50

7594 posts

back to top
+1

Rated +1 | Posted about 6 years ago

 

smartz says ...


God forbid someone actually try to get points reduced on their first ticket in 10 years.....the level of perfection by some on this site is amazing! I actually spent 3 summers sitting in traffic court with my Uncle who was a Judge in Maryland. It was his opinion, according to conversations he had with several other Judges in other States, that when most good drivers are willing to show up on a ticket with points, and they have had a clean record for quite some time, most, I never said all, Judges will reduce or remove the points. Not to mention, My father was a Leutenant in my local PD and 2 brothers were Seargents. All shared the same opinion and gave the same advice. So yes I did have some experience with this matter.....Jeez! Sorry for the late post but I have been on vacation...

Law enforcement experience through genetics, I love it. Go ask your family how to spell Sergeant and Lieutenant


Pain is weakness leaving the body.

Obstacles are what we see when we take our eyes off the goal.

Blue_line_max50

1033 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted about 6 years ago

 

KSP494 says ...



smartz says ...


God forbid someone actually try to get points reduced on their first ticket in 10 years.....the level of perfection by some on this site is amazing! I actually spent 3 summers sitting in traffic court with my Uncle who was a Judge in Maryland. It was his opinion, according to conversations he had with several other Judges in other States, that when most good drivers are willing to show up on a ticket with points, and they have had a clean record for quite some time, most, I never said all, Judges will reduce or remove the points. Not to mention, My father was a Leutenant in my local PD and 2 brothers were Seargents. All shared the same opinion and gave the same advice. So yes I did have some experience with this matter.....Jeez! Sorry for the late post but I have been on vacation...

Law enforcement experience through genetics, I love it. Go ask your family how to spell Sergeant and Lieutenant



And I thought that it was me, with a twisted eye, that those words were splled (oops..spelled) wrong...LOL

Photo_user_banned_big

18 posts

back to top
-4

Rated -4 | Posted about 6 years ago

 

Amazing! Now KSP is the spelling police! Before you go around correcting other peoples grammer and spelling, perhaps you should check some of your own posts! Tool....

Next Page >