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While I agree with several of the forum postings on here in ref to a Beslan type incident, while that would be bad enough consider a terrorist operation along the lines of Mumbai (Bombay) where you have 6-7 homicide/suicide squads loose in a city whos sole goal is the killing of as many as possible prior to being killed themselves.  Keep in mind that most cities do not have enough SWAT/Tac elements to contain more than 1 to 2 incidents at once.  A team in a mall, a major sporting event, ect and you could have a death toll that would make the 9/11 attacks pale in compairson and that could happen in any number of towns.  When and I say when because I dont feel its an "if" situation, its gonna fall on us the street level officers shoulders to end it

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I agree that we are currently under attack financially.  As far as future attacks go, the scariest one to me is an EMP attack, and Iran has already tested the missile launch and delivery technology successfully.  No electrical infrastructure (that means no cold food storage, and no medical equipment working), no communications ( includes all phone lines, radios, and cellular) , no transportation (including transportation of food stuffs), and people will be ready to turn on each other in a short time. 


I know it may sound crazy, but I'd rather have a dirty bomb or a biological attack.  Easier to deal with, smaller area of effect, and quicker recovery.


 


I agree with ccso8462. I'm afraid of an EMP attack. No electrical power!!! Anything thats electronic will not function. Just think of how many items run on electricity of some form....just about EVERYTHING!!!  The only thing that would function are wind up clocks and wind up watches.  Imagine, the aftermath of Katrina but on a larger scale. People will be acting like the zombies in the movie I am Legend. Everyman for themselves. SCARY Thought.




I spoke with someone who I believe is pretty well versed and knowledgeable about EMP's. He says that a device capable of delivering an EMP of sufficient size to cause any real harm requires some pretty advanced technology. Given that it makes one wonder if a terrorist organization has that ability would perhaps have the ability to deliver a nuke? Even a dirty bomb, while likely WOULDN'T be capable of causing wide spread harm or damage, would cause huge psychological panic which would cause us, the citizenry, to harm ourselves considerably.


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While I agree with several of the forum postings on here in ref to a Beslan type incident, while that would be bad enough consider a terrorist operation along the lines of Mumbai (Bombay) where you have 6-7 homicide/suicide squads loose in a city whos sole goal is the killing of as many as possible prior to being killed themselves.  Keep in mind that most cities do not have enough SWAT/Tac elements to contain more than 1 to 2 incidents at once.  A team in a mall, a major sporting event, ect and you could have a death toll that would make the 9/11 attacks pale in compairson and that could happen in any number of towns.  When and I say when because I dont feel its an "if" situation, its gonna fall on us the street level officers shoulders to end it



I agree. The most probable response to an attack of that scale would require military intervention. Given how thin the military is spread the local Law Enforcement would probably be on their own for most of it if not all.


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so we should be training and developing plans

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so we should be training and developing plans


 


How can we prepare when there are so many ways to attack and so many soft targets.  As a nation, we are sitting ducks and guess who the hunters are?



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While I agree with several of the forum postings on here in ref to a Beslan type incident, while that would be bad enough consider a terrorist operation along the lines of Mumbai (Bombay) where you have 6-7 homicide/suicide squads loose in a city whos sole goal is the killing of as many as possible prior to being killed themselves.  Keep in mind that most cities do not have enough SWAT/Tac elements to contain more than 1 to 2 incidents at once.  A team in a mall, a major sporting event, ect and you could have a death toll that would make the 9/11 attacks pale in compairson and that could happen in any number of towns.  When and I say when because I dont feel its an "if" situation, its gonna fall on us the street level officers shoulders to end it



I agree. The most probable response to an attack of that scale would require military intervention. Given how thin the military is spread the local Law Enforcement would probably be on their own for most of it if not all.



Depending on where this would happen, the military would indeed respond, but it would take a while. It would take a while for Guard units to muster, equip, and respond. If the regular Army was used, it would be quicker, depending on if it happened near an active duty post. But youre right, the first response will be patrol officers. Which is why its so important for patrol officers to have access to the same sort of gear and TRAINING that has traditionally been only for SWAT.  Every cop should literally have basic infantry skills.

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I'm not on the SWAT team, but I do have an issued patrol rifle and I'm going to get my own equipment (helmet/heavy ballistic vest) for my own protection if an incident occurs.


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I'm not on the SWAT team, but I do have an issued patrol rifle and I'm going to get my own equipment (helmet/heavy ballistic vest) for my own protection if an incident occurs.



I think that is where the Indian cops were severely lacking.....they were using Enfield (WWII) type rifles and poor technology, whereas the terrorists had fully automatic AKs, RPGs, IEDs, and sat phones.

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so we should be training and developing plans



Absolutely ! !  One huge problem is the local Law Enforcement agencies are still waiting for the promised equipment since 2002. Equipping our real first line of defense is woefully deficient and the brave men and women of Law Enforcement will be among the initial casualties. I would suggest you tell your friends and neighbors they'll likely be pretty much on their own for the first several days after a terrorist attack so they better be prepared with all the equipment needed for their survival until "official" help can be mustered.


I have food, water, medical supplies (including Rx stuff) and plenty of firepower. It wouldn't be a bad idea if you've a shotgun to stock up on some rifled slugs, 00 buckshot as well as the smaller stuff. Preparation is the key and if your neighbors are prepared that means you don't need to be AS concerned about protecting yourself and your supplies against them. WHEN it happens, it'll get real ugly real fast.


I'm not advocating being an armed mob or vigilanties, just solid preparation and vigilance for your own safety and security.


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Disruption of power grids in several large metropolitan cities during noon/lunch rush hour coupled with simultaneous attacks in schools and restaurants............................with secondary ied's set for first responders.  Talk about mass chaos. We are not equiped and trained to handle anything like this.  Isreal on the other hand deal with this type stuff on a daily basis. As LEO's we will have our hands full.


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As police officers, we simply cant wait on gear and training promised to us. We all have time off. We fill much of it doign extra jobs and such. I own several handguns, a shotgun, and an AR-15 fixed much like the one I am issued in the Army Guard. I have an Interceptor body armor vest with SAPI plates, and will probably be purchasing more gear when I get back stateside.


My agency doesnt always send me to the tactical training I want. Beyond basic SWAT, courses such as Tactical Operations in Rural Terrain, Advanced SWAT, Advanced Hostage Rescue, Basic and Advanced Police Sniper...etc etc...those are classes I will be taking on my own. Ive already paid out of my own pocket for gear as well as a bit of my tactical training. I dont have a problem with it. I see it as an investment in my career, my resume, my proficiency as a cop, and insurance for the "oh shit" days that MAY happen in the post 9/11 era. I think we as cops should be training as much as possible anyway. We are not sociopaths...and I think the sociopaths and the psychopaths of society will always have a bit of an edge since they dont operate under the law, have no remorse for killing, enjoy killing...thats a natural edge they have. I think we have to do everything we can to counter that with training, skill, fitness, and vigilance.

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I agree that we are currently under attack financially.  As far as future attacks go, the scariest one to me is an EMP attack, and Iran has already tested the missile launch and delivery technology successfully.  No electrical infrastructure (that means no cold food storage, and no medical equipment working), no communications ( includes all phone lines, radios, and cellular) , no transportation (including transportation of food stuffs), and people will be ready to turn on each other in a short time. 


I know it may sound crazy, but I'd rather have a dirty bomb or a biological attack.  Easier to deal with, smaller area of effect, and quicker recovery.


 


I agree with ccso8462. I'm afraid of an EMP attack. No electrical power!!! Anything thats electronic will not function. Just think of how many items run on electricity of some form....just about EVERYTHING!!!  The only thing that would function are wind up clocks and wind up watches.  Imagine, the aftermath of Katrina but on a larger scale. People will be acting like the zombies in the movie I am Legend. Everyman for themselves. SCARY Thought.




I spoke with someone who I believe is pretty well versed and knowledgeable about EMP's. He says that a device capable of delivering an EMP of sufficient size to cause any real harm requires some pretty advanced technology. Given that it makes one wonder if a terrorist organization has that ability would perhaps have the ability to deliver a nuke? Even a dirty bomb, while likely WOULDN'T be capable of causing wide spread harm or damage, would cause huge psychological panic which would cause us, the citizenry, to harm ourselves considerably.



A device that produces only an EMP is definitely high tech.  However, as a side-effect of a nuclear detonation, EMP is a real problem, and the terrorist organizations are and have been pursuing nuclear technology.  This can be fairly "low-tech" by today's standards.  Low-level detonations do not cause much EMP damage, but at 250 to 300 mi. altitude, there is a sever risk of widespread damage.



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It need not be James Bondlike....all you have to do is look at current terrorist trends in thew world right now.  You have Beslan, you have Mumbai, you have TTPs from the Insurgencies in Iraq and Afghanistan, and you have TTPs from operations in western Europe such as what happened in Spain.


If I were to make a guess based on current TTPs, I would say we are looking at something involving school hostage situations, bombs in public places (VBIEDs, IEDs, suicide bombers),  landmark destruction.


The real issue is that LE, being strongly decentralized in the USA, is not prepared. If mumbai or Beslan were to happen in the USA....we have to understand, the initial response will be a police response...not military, and not FBI.  The local PDs will be tasked with handling it, unless they dont...and the initial response is the ONLY response when it comes to terrorism. If you dont put it down quickly, the terrorists win. Even if its nothing more than a psychological (information warfare) victory and everything turns out right.


Does every cruiser have a patrol rifle and protective ballistic headgear? Does every officer or deputy have the proper training to counter at least an active shooter incident (what the military calls "movement to contact")? Does every department have at least an on call SRT that is trained in response to hostage rescue scenarios? I could go on and on. But we are simply not prepared in general.


Make no mistake people, they are watching when some mental patient off his meds shoots up a university or school. They are watching when someone kills 2 cops with merely a pipe bomb. They know about gaps on the borders. They know how to convert AKs to fully automatic. On and on.


Be ready.



I agree with this whole heartedly and I am trying to prepare my ERT Team for just such an incident. Right now our initial LE response will have to be one of containment. Most LE agencies are not prepared for an attack like Mumbai.


I happen to believe this will be the next type of attack we see here, but I think it will be more wide spread (Boston, New York, L.A., New Orleans, Tampa, Seattle, etc.) all at once.


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occifer567 love your name bud


Your making me work, what can you do?

its basic crisis managment, if you can predict it, you can train for it.


1) personal. Is your kit up to speed? Good duty weapon? trained well? back up gun? long rifle? Are you fit? spend time in the gym? can you move? is your tactical training good? practice? Are your fellow officers up to speed? keep up on terrorism, history of terrorism, insurgent groups, domestic groups?


2) your organization? realistic tactical training for everyone? have a swat team? wolrk with them? Is your chief tactically aware? Do you train in your work group? Do you have interagency agreements with surrounding pd's? Dispatch is trained in crisis management? secure? Or is your radio towers in a corn field someplace? train with your fire/emts? k-9 train with swat? Do you have an agreement with national guard to acquire equipment like night vision?


3) community. What are the terrorist targets in your community? Do you have schools, shopping centers, fertilizer factory/storage, truck lines, train stations? Do you have an ethic population in your community? Do you know the leaders? can you speak the language? Have you met with community leaders to acquaint them with threats? Do you know landlords, board of realtors who can spot people moving in and perhaps wanting to sign cash leases, no furniture etc/ ? Do yo have an community that might be a good place for safe houses?


(that one will include about everyone) we want to think the terrorists will hit Ohare airport, but will probably have a safe house in the suburbs) do you have a local airport?


Just a short list, but you can see with some imagination there is a lot of work to do. Starts with you, are you prepared, your officers, your agency and then community. Feel freee to add


 

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It could be anywhere but, I am hoping it's not a school, or nursing home. Kids and elderly are just the kind of people that can't protect themselves very well. I hope nothing will ever happen again. I hope we learned our lesson and have our guards up.


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p.s get the blueprints for all the good stuff in yr community, building and zoning will have them, but at 2am they will be locked up.

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Next attack will be somewhere symbolic and where we are not looking. That could be many places, schools, churches etc. Until we close the border down south and up norht and make it VERY difficult to get thru for the bad guys it is a matter of when.



The real scary thing is that "they" are already here, just waiting.


KSP is correct about the economy and since we are about to innagurate a liberal Muslim, it is just a matter of time. I am not about to speculate on "hard" or "soft" targets but those that have been LEO's for years and especially on 9/11 were "briefed" on the very large amount of "targets".


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so we should be training and developing plans



Ya think?   I am not mocking you, to say the least. But like someone else said, chaos in a number of locals would cripple the US. The Fed can't even handle  the aftermath of a stupid hurricane!


Our local "leaders" need to pull their heads out of the asses!  The street cops are going to be on the front! The public will completely freak out also! Our "crowd control" training is really going to be tested, especially when everyone "hits the road".

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Homeland Security forecasts 5-year threat picture



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WASHINGTON (AP) — The terrorism threat to the United States over the next five years will be driven by instability in the Middle East and Africa, persistent challenges to border security and increasing Internet savvy, says a new intelligence assessment obtained by The Associated Press.


Chemical, biological, radiological and nuclear attacks are considered the most dangerous threats that could be carried out against the U.S. But those threats are also the most unlikely because it is so difficult for al-Qaida and similar groups to acquire the materials needed to carry out such plots, according to the internal Homeland Security Threat Assessment for the years 2008-2013.


The al-Qaida terrorist network continues to focus on U.S. attack targets vulnerable to massive economic losses, casualties and political "turmoil," the assessment said.


Earlier this month, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said the threat posed by weapons of mass destruction remains "the highest priority at the federal level." Speaking to reporters on Dec. 3, Chertoff explained that more people, such as terrorists, will learn how to make dirty bombs, biological and chemical weapons. "The other side is going to continue to learn more about doing things," he said.


Marked "for official use only," the report does not specify its audience, but the assessments typically go to law enforcement, intelligence officials and the private sector. When determining threats, intelligence officials consider loss of life, economic and psychological consequences.


Intelligence officials also predict that in the next five years, terrorists will try to conduct a destructive biological attack. Officials are concerned about the possibility of infections to thousands of U.S. citizens, overwhelming regional health care systems.


There could also be dire economic impacts caused by workers' illnesses and deaths. Officials are most concerned about biological agents stolen from labs or other storage facilities, such as anthrax.


"The threat of terrorism and the threat of extremist ideologies has not abated," Chertoff said in his year-end address on Dec. 18. "This threat has not evaporated, and we can't turn the page on it."


These high-consequence threats are not the only kind of challenges that will confront the U.S. over the next five years.


Terrorists will continue to try to evade U.S. border security measures and place operatives inside the mainland to carry out attacks, the 38-page assessment said. It also said that they may pose as refugees or asylum seekers or try to exploit foreign travel channels such as the visa waiver program, which allows citizens of 34 countries to enter the U.S. without visas.


Long waits for immigration and more restrictive European refugee and asylum programs will cause more foreigners to try to enter the U.S. illegally. Increasing numbers of Iraqis are expected to migrate to the U.S. in the next five years; and refugees from Somalia and Sudan could increase because of conflicts in those countries, the assessment said.


Because there is a proposed cap of 12,000 refugees from Africa, officials expect more will try to enter the U.S. illegally as well. Officials predict the same scenario for refugees from Afghanistan, Bangladesh and Pakistan.


Intelligence officials predict the pool of radical Islamists within the U.S. will increase over the next five years due partly to the ease of online recruiting means. Officials foresee "a wave of young, self-identified Muslim 'terrorist wannabes' who aspire to carry out violent acts."


The U.S. has already seen some examples of these homegrown terrorists. Recently five Muslim immigrants were convicted of plotting to massacre U.S. soldiers at Fort Dix in a case the government said demonstrated its post-Sept. 11 determination to stop terrorist attacks in the planning stages.


The Lebanese Shiite group Hezbollah does not have a known history of fomenting attacks inside the U.S., but that could change if there is some kind of "triggering" event, the Homeland assessment cautions.


A 2008 Interagency Intelligence Committee on Terrorism assessment said that Hezbollah members based in the U.S. do local fundraising through charity projects and criminal activity, like money laundering, smuggling, drug trafficking, fraud and extortion, according to the homeland security assessment.


In addition, the cyber terror threat is expected to increase over the next five years, as hacking tools become more sophisticated and available. "Youthful, Internet-savvy extremists might apply their online acumen to conduct cyber attacks rather than offer themselves up as operatives to conduct physical attacks," according to the assessment.


Currently, Islamic terrorists, including al-Qaida, would like to conduct cyber attacks, but they lack the capability to do so, the assessment said. The large-scale attacks that are on al-Qaida's wishlist — such as disrupting a major city's water or power systems — require sophisticated cyber capabilities that the terrorist group does not possess.


But al-Qaida has the capability to hire sophisticated hackers to carry out these kinds of attacks, the assessment said. And federal officials believe that in the next three to five years, al-Qaida could direct or inspire cyber attacks that target the U.S. economy.


Counterterrorism expert Frank Cilluffo says the typical cyber attack would not achieve al-Qaida's main goal of inflicting mass devastation with its resulting widespread media coverage. However, al-Qaida is likely to continue to rely on the Internet to spread its message, said Cilluffo, who runs the Homeland Security Policy Institute at George Washington University.


Officials also predict that domestic terrorists in the forms of radical animal rights and environmental extremists will become more adept with explosives and increase their use of arson attacks.



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Homeland Security forecasts 5-year threat picture



http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5i_jXJ7v4NrGgkJXDMZgAHrlB86tAD959TKM80


WASHINGTON (AP) — The terrorism threat to the United States over the next five years will be driven by instability in the Middle East and Africa, persistent challenges to border security and increasing Internet savvy, says a new intelligence assessment obtained by The Associated Press.


Chemical, biological, radiological and nuclear attacks are considered the most dangerous threats that could be carried out against the U.S. But those threats are also the most unlikely because it is so difficult for al-Qaida and similar groups to acquire the materials needed to carry out such plots, according to the internal Homeland Security Threat Assessment for the years 2008-2013.


The al-Qaida terrorist network continues to focus on U.S. attack targets vulnerable to massive economic losses, casualties and political "turmoil," the assessment said.


Earlier this month, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said the threat posed by weapons of mass destruction remains "the highest priority at the federal level." Speaking to reporters on Dec. 3, Chertoff explained that more people, such as terrorists, will learn how to make dirty bombs, biological and chemical weapons. "The other side is going to continue to learn more about doing things," he said.


Marked "for official use only," the report does not specify its audience, but the assessments typically go to law enforcement, intelligence officials and the private sector. When determining threats, intelligence officials consider loss of life, economic and psychological consequences.


Intelligence officials also predict that in the next five years, terrorists will try to conduct a destructive biological attack. Officials are concerned about the possibility of infections to thousands of U.S. citizens, overwhelming regional health care systems.


There could also be dire economic impacts caused by workers' illnesses and deaths. Officials are most concerned about biological agents stolen from labs or other storage facilities, such as anthrax.


"The threat of terrorism and the threat of extremist ideologies has not abated," Chertoff said in his year-end address on Dec. 18. "This threat has not evaporated, and we can't turn the page on it."


These high-consequence threats are not the only kind of challenges that will confront the U.S. over the next five years.


Terrorists will continue to try to evade U.S. border security measures and place operatives inside the mainland to carry out attacks, the 38-page assessment said. It also said that they may pose as refugees or asylum seekers or try to exploit foreign travel channels such as the visa waiver program, which allows citizens of 34 countries to enter the U.S. without visas.


Long waits for immigration and more restrictive European refugee and asylum programs will cause more foreigners to try to enter the U.S. illegally. Increasing numbers of Iraqis are expected to migrate to the U.S. in the next five years; and refugees from Somalia and Sudan could increase because of conflicts in those countries, the assessment said.


Because there is a proposed cap of 12,000 refugees from Africa, officials expect more will try to enter the U.S. illegally as well. Officials predict the same scenario for refugees from Afghanistan, Bangladesh and Pakistan.


Intelligence officials predict the pool of radical Islamists within the U.S. will increase over the next five years due partly to the ease of online recruiting means. Officials foresee "a wave of young, self-identified Muslim 'terrorist wannabes' who aspire to carry out violent acts."


The U.S. has already seen some examples of these homegrown terrorists. Recently five Muslim immigrants were convicted of plotting to massacre U.S. soldiers at Fort Dix in a case the government said demonstrated its post-Sept. 11 determination to stop terrorist attacks in the planning stages.


The Lebanese Shiite group Hezbollah does not have a known history of fomenting attacks inside the U.S., but that could change if there is some kind of "triggering" event, the Homeland assessment cautions.


A 2008 Interagency Intelligence Committee on Terrorism assessment said that Hezbollah members based in the U.S. do local fundraising through charity projects and criminal activity, like money laundering, smuggling, drug trafficking, fraud and extortion, according to the homeland security assessment.


In addition, the cyber terror threat is expected to increase over the next five years, as hacking tools become more sophisticated and available. "Youthful, Internet-savvy extremists might apply their online acumen to conduct cyber attacks rather than offer themselves up as operatives to conduct physical attacks," according to the assessment.


Currently, Islamic terrorists, including al-Qaida, would like to conduct cyber attacks, but they lack the capability to do so, the assessment said. The large-scale attacks that are on al-Qaida's wishlist — such as disrupting a major city's water or power systems — require sophisticated cyber capabilities that the terrorist group does not possess.


But al-Qaida has the capability to hire sophisticated hackers to carry out these kinds of attacks, the assessment said. And federal officials believe that in the next three to five years, al-Qaida could direct or inspire cyber attacks that target the U.S. economy.


Counterterrorism expert Frank Cilluffo says the typical cyber attack would not achieve al-Qaida's main goal of inflicting mass devastation with its resulting widespread media coverage. However, al-Qaida is likely to continue to rely on the Internet to spread its message, said Cilluffo, who runs the Homeland Security Policy Institute at George Washington University.


Officials also predict that domestic terrorists in the forms of radical animal rights and environmental extremists will become more adept with explosives and increase their use of arson attacks.




yep. read this one earlier. Its here to stay folks, not going anywhere any time soon.  Take some of that money you make from extra jobs and take some tactical courses, emergency planning courses, gear and make an investment in yourself and public safety. 

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Folks, they will strike where it hurts us all the most........school systems....Be safe

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I am not even going to try to guess at where they will strike next. Only they know now.


They can strike any time. Terrorist are plotting and planning very methodically now.


The media and statistic takers make me ill with this.


The terrorist are in our back yard now. We need to be very aware and observant.


Some people and agencies have already become complacent with all the other problems


happening in each area/State. This is what terrorist want also.


Be very vigilant and careful.


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I think it will be massive.  It will be a chemical attact (Anthrax) in major cities at rush hour.  They will hit three or four highly populated large cities all at one time.  Intel suggests that it will kill over 300.000 people at one time, within 24 hours of the attack.  Emergency services will be helpless, and there will be nowhere to hide, or protect yourself from the attack.  The chemical will also linger for months.


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Not sure where or when & don't want to guess............But this I do know............they accomplished  big step #1.


Where do you think MOST of the campaign contributions for Barack came from ??


Hint........Anonymous Millions .............on the Internet from Foreign Countries. .............Now put on your thinking caps................ Hmmmm...............Now who did the POTUS Bow too ??????  


Now all you kool aid drinkers don't get your panties in a bind...........I 'm not saying he is a Terrorist or even aiding them. The Terrorists just know who will drop Uncle Sams Trousers AGAIN ( like Billy C did ) and allow them easy access to whatever Mass Murder of choice they pick.


Just look at what the POTUS has already started doing.......and at the same time North Korea is testing Missiles. This is why IRAN backed Obama also. Wake Up Liberals..........they hate you too !!! 


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lets get the kool aid thing cleared up. the Jim Jones followers were forced to drink the poisoned kool aid at gun point. the analogy is incorrect.

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lets get the kool aid thing cleared up. the Jim Jones followers were forced to drink the poisoned kool aid at gun point. the analogy is incorrect.



OMG..........HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.......LMFAO !!!!!!!!   Man O' Man............you crack me up !!!!!!     First of all they were a CULT. They were a brainwashed & isolated community. Although some tried to escape and were shot , over 900 WILLINGLY drank the poison concoction after being DIRECTED by James Warren Jones to do so. This is recorded in many publications and what happens to Brainwashed Cult members. The Term Kool Aid Drinkers is widely used on almost every Major News Network around the world and the Meaning is quite clear...................Except to you I guess. 


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do some research clear to u y our wrong

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do some research clear to u y our wrong



Thank you rick. How would I ever survive without your constant editing & all knowing mind. You are a genius sir. Keep up the good work.


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if you two keep this up you will be assigned a fixer post on steady midnights somewhere together until you two learn to play nice!

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