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Ok, here's my new dilema.... in the rules of my being newly placed on probation, one of the rules is to report ANY contact with law enforcement to my PO.  Would you consider this forum, in a NON-enforcement capacity, as "Contact"?  Yes I intend to be open, honest and upfront with my PO, and considering who I used to be, 90% of my online activity is with current/former LEOs.  I realize that answers here are non-binding. I was just placed on probation on 06/24/08. I have made my initial telephone contact with my PO and have an in person interview / intake meeting scheduled for Tuesday afternoon.


Please understand, I'm just trying to get an idea on the whole concept. It's very upsetting to be on the "WRONG" side of the badge after all these years. The last thing I want to do is become further embroiled with the dark side of the force.


Thanx - Mike


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Ok, here's my new dilema.... in the rules of my being newly placed on probation, one of the rules is to report ANY contact with law enforcement to my PO.  Would you consider this forum, in a NON-enforcement capacity, as "Contact"?  Yes I intend to be open, honest and upfront with my PO, and considering who I used to be, 90% of my online activity is with current/former LEOs.  I realize that answers here are non-binding. I was just placed on probation on 06/24/08. I have made my initial telephone contact with my PO and have an in person interview / intake meeting scheduled for Tuesday afternoon.


Please understand, I'm just trying to get an idea on the whole concept. It's very upsetting to be on the "WRONG" side of the badge after all these years. The last thing I want to do is become further embroiled with the dark side of the force.


Thanx - Mike



No, they want to know when:


*you've been pulled over


*you're questioned about an incident


*you're a suspect in a crime


*you've been summoned for any reason


 


Your PO doesn't care about casual conversation with LEOs...he wants everything on an official capacity...it's just easier to say "tell me when you have any contact with LE" than stating all the above.


*Edit, I apologize that I responded to your question although I'm not a PO or CCO. You may double check the question with anyone that is though.


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Well, I was a PO and a PO Supervisor for 10 years.  Riot is correct in that they only want to know if you've had contact with law enforcement that could result in a violation of your rules & conditions.  It might be good to let them know that you do have LEO friends, but it might not.  You will have to judge that for yourself.  If you get a jerk for an officer, you might not want them to know that.  Some PO's might think you were a suck up or something and then get an attitude toward you.  I knew officers who would have been cool with it, especially given the circumstances, but I've known others that would just look for a reason to write a violation report, as well.


BTW - what are probation fees in your state?  They are $40 per month in Oklahoma.

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P.O in La. for 22 yrs and Riot is dead on right. I don't care who your friends are.; Shellgame is also right. Watch out for the Cowboys,  always be polite and remember, we are not on supervison you are and make sure you see your officer when you are due to be seen. Supervision fees here are $50 per month.


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Ina, I know what you went through and I still pray for your family.  I agree the online contact does not count only in person counts.  There really is no proof that anyone online is really an LEO.

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I'd echo what everyone else has said.  These casual conversations in an online discussion forum are not 'police contact' as it relates to your Order of Probation.  However, it is always good practice to be open and forthcoming about information to your PO.  Your PO has a lot of other s*heads to deal with and I doubt they would be too concerned about your online dicussions.  Best of luck and sorry to read of your loss and circumstances behind this case.   


Supervision fees in Michigan are $10-135, based on income and not to exceed 5% of monthly income.  

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Ok so I am 14 and on probation, I am currently on a Order of Continuance and have a new pending case that is getting dismissed as long as I don't get in trouble until July 8th. I have to go to drug and alcohol counseling and I know it is a probation violation if you don't go, but last week I had an appointment but I thought it was the next day so I showed up the day after my appointment, can they they send me back to jail for this? I spent two weeks in jail, and my current pending case is a felony so I really hope they won't react badly to this considering I didn't mean to miss it. So can I go back to jail for this?

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Ok so I am 14 and on probation, I am currently on a Order of Continuance and have a new pending case that is getting dismissed as long as I don't get in trouble until July 8th. I have to go to drug and alcohol counseling and I know it is a probation violation if you don't go, but last week I had an appointment but I thought it was the next day so I showed up the day after my appointment, can they they send me back to jail for this? I spent two weeks in jail, and my current pending case is a felony so I really hope they won't react badly to this considering I didn't mean to miss it. So can I go back to jail for this?

6/25/13


14 you say? I didn't think they put 14 year olds in JAIL. Can I assume you live with parents? Why aren't they making sure that you show up when you are supposed to show up. To answer your question yes they can do what ever they want if you don't hold up your end.


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By jail I mean juvie sorry, and I was staying at my sisters house because my mom was out of town so I thought it was a Wednesday when it was on Tuesday. What seems fishy to you?

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Ok so I am 14 and on probation, I am currently on a Order of Continuance and have a new pending case that is getting dismissed as long as I don't get in trouble until July 8th. I have to go to drug and alcohol counseling and I know it is a probation violation if you don't go, but last week I had an appointment but I thought it was the next day so I showed up the day after my appointment, can they they send me back to jail for this? I spent two weeks in jail, and my current pending case is a felony so I really hope they won't react badly to this considering I didn't mean to miss it. So can I go back to jail for this?

06-25-13  -  When you were placed on probation status, you were given "Terms and Conditions of Probation."  Do you remember what they are?  They usually include but are not limited to:


1)  Obey ALL laws (not just the ones you feel like at the time).  Refer to Chris Rock "Law are there for a reason..... Consider them as hints."


2)  Keep and follow ALL scheduled appointments with your probation officer or with the probation department and court (It is your responsibility to know when you have to go in to make contact with your PO or go to a drug / alcohol screen / test.  Not the PO or the Probation Department's)


3)  Because you are a minor (under the age of 18), you are required to regularly attend school and obey all rules associated with your school or face violation of your terms and conditions.


To answer your question, if you violate ANY of your terms and conditions of probation, YES they can remand you to the custody of a juvenile facitity and if you have any pending cases such as you described, they can pull the agreement that you made with them off the table and charge you with the crime.


My question to you is:  If you, having full knowledge of your terms and conditions of probation, and knowing that ignorance to the law is not a legal excuse or validation for committing another crime or violating those terms and conditions of probation..... Why would you proceed to violate them?


NOW, go and ask mommy to get you a large wall calander and write in the dates and times of all of your court and  probation appointments and phone numbers for your PO and the probation department.  Then take regular looks at it so you don't forget anymore.  If they decide to violate you, put you back into a juvenile facility and take any and or all agreements off of the table, suck it up..... You did it to yourself, whether you meant to or not.


In short........ YOUR DAYS OF BEING AND ACTING LIKE A KID ARE OVER AND DONE BECAUSE OF THE CHOICES YOU HAVE MADE THAT RESULTED IN YOUR BEING PLACED ON PROBATION STATUS.......... IT IS NOW TIME FOR YOU TO START ACTING LIKE A RESPONSIBLE CITIZEN.....  THAT IS UNLESS YOU ENJOY BEING TREATED LIKE A MOPE AND YOU ACTUALLY LOOK FORWARD TO A LIFE OF PRISON INCARCERATION IN YOUR VERY NEAR FUTURE.

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I'd be willing to bet if you contacted your PO, they would be able to best answer that question for you. In the meantime, I'd have to agree with the others here: Yes, they can violate you and send you to Juvenile Detention.


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It was just a question, I didnt mean to miss it jeez.

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AnonymousBatman says ...


Ok so I am 14 and on probation, I am currently on a Order of Continuance and have a new pending case that is getting dismissed as long as I don't get in trouble until July 8th. I have to go to drug and alcohol counseling and I know it is a probation violation if you don't go, but last week I had an appointment but I thought it was the next day so I showed up the day after my appointment, can they they send me back to jail for this? I spent two weeks in jail, and my current pending case is a felony so I really hope they won't react badly to this considering I didn't mean to miss it. So can I go back to jail for this?

Here's my issue: you're only 14, have a conviction that has put you on probation (just a guess, but probably a alcohol/drug related conviction) and in the meantime have been arrested for a felony. 14, and on your way to ruinig your life before you even get started.


Here's a question: what was your conviction for, and what is your felony arrest for?


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It was just a question, I didnt mean to miss it jeez.



It was a question and I answered it as did some others.  If you didn't like the answer or how it was answered, that's just tough fecal matter (look it up in the dictionary if you don't know what that means).  I answered it completely and honestly.  I basically told you what you should have known when you signed the court documentation when you were originally placed on probation status.  That you failed to go go to a court ordered drug screen is ALL ON YOU PAL.  Maybe you need to be violated and sent to a juvenile detention facility in addition to the felony conviction that was to be dismissed had you followed said terms and conditions of your probation.  Maybe no one has ever talked to you in such plain terms, not pulling any punches.  Maybe that's part of your problem.  Maybe another part of your problem is that you were allowed to be and left to your own devices instead of having certain discipline matters taken care of swiftly by your parents by way of a well timed boot placed firmly into your fleshy hind quarters.  I gave you an answer..... a complete answer.  My answer left you with no more question as to you having to take some RESPONSIBILITY in your your life.  You don't like the answer because it left you with no excuses.  Don't ask the question if you do not really want to hear the answer.  Just be prepared for the consequences.