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Nunst042_max50

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Posted over 6 years ago

 

Good afternoon all,


Anyone out there use "duty" suspenders in thier line of work. 


Our organization is looking at thier uses, and want to know some feed back on them.


Thank you,


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NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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If people would watch their weight they wouldn't need suspenders. I've never needed help holding up my belt.


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I don't think they are very officer-safety friendly...


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ummm.....W.T.F.?   are we going to the prom or work.......NO!


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I don't think being fat has anything to do with holding up the duty belt.   LOL!  (I'm not laughing AT you, I'm just sorta chuckling in your general direction)   We don't use them and hopefully never will.  Our skinnier guys already have trouble getting everything they need on their belts. If we have to start carrying much more we may have to go to suspenders just to hang crap on them.


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My belt is packed with junk, if the blt is adjusted properly it il rest over your hips( this is where the weight issue comes in). Besides that, tactically speaking I don't want to give the hybrids something to grab and sling me around with especially from behind.


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KSP494 says ...



My belt is packed with junk, if the blt is adjusted properly it il rest over your hips( this is where the weight issue comes in). Besides that, tactically speaking I don't want to give the hybrids something to grab and sling me around with especially from behind.



I agree.  I have enough crap on me for them to grab.   I've just heard from people that have worn them that the suspenders do actually relieve weight from your hips and distribute that weight over a greater area.  Apparently this is also good for the lower back.   The military has used suspenders for many, many years.  They might be practical if they weren't so impractical.   Or something like that.


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Georgia_Cop says ...



KSP494 says ...



My belt is packed with junk, if the blt is adjusted properly it il rest over your hips( this is where the weight issue comes in). Besides that, tactically speaking I don't want to give the hybrids something to grab and sling me around with especially from behind.



I agree.  I have enough crap on me for them to grab.   I've just heard from people that have worn them that the suspenders do actually relieve weight from your hips and distribute that weight over a greater area.  Apparently this is also good for the lower back.   The military has used suspenders for many, many years.  They might be practical if they weren't so impractical.   Or something like that.



I never used suspenders in the military except in the field on my LBV/LCE but they served a dual purpose to hold up the pistol belt but they also were used for carrying equipment such as first aid pouches and compasses etc...etc...but that was the military. Like I said though,suspenders in L.E. are just something else for the hybrids to grab, they aren't tactically sound. Besides that weight wil distribute evenly if the belt is set up properly. But that's just me and just one guys opinion.


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As the others have mentioned, I think they are a huge officer safety concern.  Besides that, I think they look stupid with a dut uniform.  Im not skinny, but I'm surely not a tank either, and I have never had a problem holding up my belt (barring the occaisional John Wayne belt hike after geting out of the car...LOL).  I do recall seeing some departments in Washington state wear them alot on the reality TV shows.


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can't you see some hybrid walking up behind an LEO and using him like a human hammer throw


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KSP494 says ...



can't you see some hybrid walking up behind an LEO and using him like a human hammer throw



One of my Air Force SP buddies had that happen to him in Panama during the late 80s...


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KSP494 says ...



Georgia_Cop says ...



KSP494 says ...



My belt is packed with junk, if the blt is adjusted properly it il rest over your hips( this is where the weight issue comes in). Besides that, tactically speaking I don't want to give the hybrids something to grab and sling me around with especially from behind.



I agree.  I have enough crap on me for them to grab.   I've just heard from people that have worn them that the suspenders do actually relieve weight from your hips and distribute that weight over a greater area.  Apparently this is also good for the lower back.   The military has used suspenders for many, many years.  They might be practical if they weren't so impractical.   Or something like that.



I never used suspenders in the military except in the field on my LBV/LCE but they served a dual purpose to hold up the pistol belt but they also were used for carrying equipment such as first aid pouches and compasses etc...etc...but that was the military. Like I said though,suspenders in L.E. are just something else for the hybrids to grab, they aren't tactically sound. Besides that weight wil distribute evenly if the belt is set up properly. But that's just me and just one guys opinion.



Well other than the LCE, when else would you use them?   You're cracking me up.   And the extra equipment was what I was joking about.  Can't you just see some 21 year old 140 pound rookie walking into the squad wearing suspenders with handcuffs, a flashlight, taser, and all the silly crap rookies run out and buy hanging on them?   My belt is just fine as it is.  I'm 6'2'' and weigh about 205 so that allows for perfect spacing of my stuff.  But if we go to tasers, I may have to just tie a rope to my ass and hang stuff off the back.


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Georgia_Cop says ...



KSP494 says ...



Georgia_Cop says ...



KSP494 says ...



My belt is packed with junk, if the blt is adjusted properly it il rest over your hips( this is where the weight issue comes in). Besides that, tactically speaking I don't want to give the hybrids something to grab and sling me around with especially from behind.



I agree.  I have enough crap on me for them to grab.   I've just heard from people that have worn them that the suspenders do actually relieve weight from your hips and distribute that weight over a greater area.  Apparently this is also good for the lower back.   The military has used suspenders for many, many years.  They might be practical if they weren't so impractical.   Or something like that.



I never used suspenders in the military except in the field on my LBV/LCE but they served a dual purpose to hold up the pistol belt but they also were used for carrying equipment such as first aid pouches and compasses etc...etc...but that was the military. Like I said though,suspenders in L.E. are just something else for the hybrids to grab, they aren't tactically sound. Besides that weight wil distribute evenly if the belt is set up properly. But that's just me and just one guys opinion.



Well other than the LCE, when else would you use them?   You're cracking me up.   And the extra equipment was what I was joking about.  Can't you just see some 21 year old 140 pound rookie walking into the squad wearing suspenders with handcuffs, a flashlight, taser, and all the silly crap rookies run out and buy hanging on them?   My belt is just fine as it is.  I'm 6'2'' and weigh about 205 so that allows for perfect spacing of my stuff.  But if we go to tasers, I may have to just tie a rope to my ass and hang stuff off the back.


Didn't need that image in my head thank you very much lol



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Sorry.  I just got finished driving 10 1/2 hours with an 8 year old boy, a 2 year old girl and a bitchy wife.  This after surviving a week with the most left wing liberal mother-in-law you can imagine.  Maybe I should go to bed before I post any other nightmare inducing images. 


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Sorry.  I just got finished driving 10 1/2 hours with an 8 year old boy, a 2 year old girl and a bitchy wife.  This after surviving a week with the most left wing liberal mother-in-law you can imagine.  Maybe I should go to bed before I post any other nightmare inducing images. 



OH GOD! Poor man


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Georgia_Cop says ...



Sorry.  I just got finished driving 10 1/2 hours with an 8 year old boy, a 2 year old girl and a bitchy wife.  This after surviving a week with the most left wing liberal mother-in-law you can imagine.  Maybe I should go to bed before I post any other nightmare inducing images. 



OH GOD! Poor man



Pretty amazing that I can still have such an amazing sense of humor, huh?


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I tried some a couple of years back. Bought them from a company out west. Dont remember the name. I liked them, took the weight off my hip and psya  syy however you spell the dang nerve. The did have a break away feature built into them. DO NOT buy the uncle mikes, when you sit they unsnap. I caught a lot of ribbing being in Alabama wearing suspenders but hey what can i say.

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We used them and I like them we had a Doctor on the county Board and he recommended them to relieve back pain and a preventive use the sheriff made use  them now there still using them really no problems that I could say good luck


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I have foind a great pair of suspenders that you can wear under you duty shirt. Ft Worth PD issues them to all new LEO. Plus I know several in my department that have them. It is expensive, but not nearly as much as back problems.


http://www.backdefensesystems.com/index.html


Can't beat it. You can wear it over or under your vest, and then just tuck you shirt in over the suspenders. Takes the weight right off your hips and stops dragging you pants down (for those with no butts. ha ha)

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 http://www.backdefensesystems.com/index.html


Check These out way cool.  If you are needing suspenders.


 

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I have foind a great pair of suspenders that you can wear under you duty shirt. Ft Worth PD issues them to all new LEO. Plus I know several in my department that have them. It is expensive, but not nearly as much as back problems.


http://www.backdefensesystems.com/index.html


Can't beat it. You can wear it over or under your vest, and then just tuck you shirt in over the suspenders. Takes the weight right off your hips and stops dragging you pants down (for those with no butts. ha ha)



 


That is very interesting, I will have to remember these!


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Wearing the Back Defender is not because you are overweight.  It's a new way of taking the weight of your duty belt off of your hips and transfering it to your shoulders.  It relieves the pressure to the tissues, discs and muscles in your lower back.  I'm surprised no one has thought of this earlier.  I just had back surgery recently and ordered them.  Talk about a world of difference.  Weigh your duty belt and imagine what it is doing to your lower back.  Any street cop who wears a duty belt everyday can appreciate this.


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I have seen them advertised and didn't think they would look good in uniform. I can see a plus side however, transferring the weight off your hips.

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These aren't like the cheap ones the Police suppliers sell.  The rig actually is hidden under a uniform shirt.  I tried it, it works.  Still waiting to go back to work to really put it through the true test.


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timgould says ...



I have foind a great pair of suspenders that you can wear under you duty shirt. Ft Worth PD issues them to all new LEO. Plus I know several in my department that have them. It is expensive, but not nearly as much as back problems.


http://www.backdefensesystems.com/index.html


Can't beat it. You can wear it over or under your vest, and then just tuck you shirt in over the suspenders. Takes the weight right off your hips and stops dragging you pants down (for those with no butts. ha ha)



These look pretty slick and might be worth looking into... I have seen the exterior ones and thought what everyone else has mentioned so far (unprofessional, officer safety issues, etc).  I have seen a SGT from a neighboring city wear the external ones and he looks like a DB, especially when he wore them to a funeral for one of their officers that died off duty.... 


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I have used the ORCA tactical suspenders for a few months now and absolutely love them.  I am 5-10 175 lbs so the overweight/can't keep your belt up is not the reason I went to them.  The pressure it took off my lower back and hips was amazing.  There have been a couple of times I have had to take them off for functions and have gone home with my lower back just aching.  They are the break-away design, but have never have a problem with them coming off during running, jumping, the usual police work.  We are a sheriff department, so with the dark brown uniform, you can barely see them, but we have some city police departments with the light blue uniforms and they don't look so good.  I got some jokes made at me about them at first, but I don't care how much of a dork I may look like, it is well worth the lack of pain in my back and hopefully less of future back problems.  I just looked at the link for the hidden suspenders and those look awesome!


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