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I'm an explorer in Mesa, Arizona. And, please don't jump down my throat because of the actions of my brother and sister explorers, but when you have an explorer ride along with you, what type of activity do you let them assist with, because in Mesa we have to get "certified" to ride along with an officer, which includes learning codes, radio procedures, and phonetic alphabet. I do know we can do FI cards on witnesses and victims, and tow slips on vehicles that are recovered stolen or impunded as a result of an arrest.
Just wondering, because in 2 weeks I take my certification test and start doing ride alongs, and I'm kind of wondering what type of duties to expect. (Obviously I'm not going to be allowed to go grab a gun and initiate a foot pursuit lol)

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Expect a lot of "duties" if you get in the way! :O)


Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth. -George Washington

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Need help, Not sure what a explorer is.

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Explorers are teens (generally 14-20) who are exploring the possibility of pursuing a career in law enforcement.
I get what you mean THRIDWATCH....... :p

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An Explorer is an adolescent that is very interested in Law Enforcement but their age is holding them up from applying. They get exposed to a lot of hands on stuff that "shouldn't" get them hurt or killed... Personally I don't think the risk outweighs the bennefits. It's like putting a kid in a biker bar alone at a corner table w/ a glass of milk. I don't even agree with Cadets or Recruits doing ridealongs. As a civilian fine... there's no sense of duty and they pretty much get the "stay out of the way" -idea without even saying it. The very fact this post is existing proves my point.


Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth. -George Washington

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OK, we have never had ride alongs. Not sure what to tell you. I do know a few of the other jurisdictions in my area have had them and they sit and watch only. Liability factor.

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I understand this type of program, however I am unfamiliar with all that is involved. I have never heard of it used in my area and am wondering if this is this a common thing? There have to be a million safety concerns... I am all for recruiting the local youth and getting them involved in the community, but do the benefits outweigh the risks? I am not criticizing this, I am curious as to its effects overall.

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Sorry, looks like thirdwatchnorth beat me to the punch.

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And MHA I really don't mean to offend here... It would just really make me nuts to see a kid get hurt unnecessarily when there's really no need.


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We have a waiver for just about everything. I think classes or some type of simulator would be better. Having a added responsibility during a hot incident would not mix well here.

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I've heard Officers come over the air and say things like, "I have a ride-along... not persuing". -Guaranteed palm strike to the steering wheel in my car. Waivers are a nice gesture but usually pointless as far as liability goes.


Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth. -George Washington

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THIRDWATCHNORTH said:

I've heard Officers come over the air and say things like, "I have a ride-along... not persuing". -Guaranteed palm strike to the steering wheel in my car. Waivers are a nice gesture but usually pointless as far as liability goes.

When I was an intern at the PD the officers had no problems in pursuits with me in the car. I even was in a foot chase with the officer on one call. Out of the whole dept. there were 2-3 officers who wanted me to stay in the car. Every other officer and det. got me involved and had no problems with me getting involved. I did sign liabilty papers before the start of my internship. So I was on my own dime if I got injured.

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Our explorers are not permitted to carry handcuffs, nightsticks, etc. When they ride along with an officer, they are not permitted out of the vehicle unless given permission to do so. They wear a uniform that is very different from ours, and are restricted in what duties they are permitted to perform. Most officers encourage them to keep the daily log, write out warning cites, etc.

The explorers assist at community events by staffing the Police Department booth, fingerprint youngsters for their parent's Kid ID cards, etc. They also meet with their advisors twice per month where they learn various police techniques. Last meeting they were taught some simple joint/wrist locks and how to block a punch(es). The next meeting is our open house event for the post's one year anniversary. They have made a power-point presentation that they will show and explain to the crowd that attends the open house.


"You can't lead from behind" Gen'l James Longstreet, CSA

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When I was in explorers I participated in many ride-alongs. We had to have the limited training explorers get on DAAT (as a last resort if something small turns into something big), radio etiquette, policy, and a few other things. While on ride-alongs I was not permitted out of the cars on calls, unless the officer gave me permission. If it was a dangerous call or there was a pursuit he was going to join, the policy said the officer would drop us off, wherever that be and we could use our radio or cell phone to get a ride. On traffic stops, I was never allowed up on the initial contact, but if the officer was comfortable with the situation, and gave permission, I could make the second approach. As for paperwork, we were not allowed to fill out anything that could go to court. I found ride-alongs to be a very valuable experience.I firmly believe in explorers uniforms NOT resembling the officers uniforms in anyway. Our PD's uniforms were french blue over navy blue, our explorers wore forest green over tan.

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kilroy65 said:

I understand this type of program, however I am unfamiliar with all that is involved. I have never heard of it used in my area and am wondering if this is this a common thing? There have to be a million safety concerns... I am all for recruiting the local youth and getting them involved in the community, but do the benefits outweigh the risks? I am not criticizing this, I am curious as to its effects overall.

For our Sheriff's Office the T-12's as we call them are required to sign a liability waiver. I think that they should have to wear vests like we do but i guess..hence the reason for the waiver. When I did ride a longs i was alowed to pretty much do anything, I got out of the police car and got involved unless i was advised other wise. I wrote reports, alarm citations, etc.

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The police explorer uniform in Mesa is Light blue over black, and the LEO's uniform is Navy blue over Navy blue. As for the vest, I think we're required to wear a BPV. And the possibility of a "hot" call we have radios to radio our position to dispatch and a unit is supposed to take us back to dispatch. jo_ball... we aren't supposed to do anything that would envolve us going to court... the paperwork I'm not sure.. do tow/impound reports go to court? (that's all i know we're allowed to fill out other than FI cards).......