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9-11-logo_max50

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Posted almost 7 years ago

 

Want to share some thoughts with y'all, especially with some of the newbie non-LEOs, regarding the often-contentious nature of this site. Sometimes I get PMs from folks who are distressed about how they are being treated, or how others are being treated.

I would like to flag that this contentiousness is in part due to "blue culture" and the nature of the LE community. It surprised me also when I first ran into it. I had never been around cops much, just the occasional on-duty professional contacts, like when I was in an accident. Knowing they were there to help people, I imagined them as Boy Scouts writ large-- courteous, understanding, etc. Having heard of their fierce sense of brotherhood, I assumed they would be nice to each other.

After I became a chaplain and spent more and more time with cops behind the scenes, I was very much surprised to see how they treated one another-- how much they would laugh at each other, how rough they were with one another, sometimes really hurtful, how critical they could be. They were very often being funny, but it was often a very hurtful sort of humor. It was a puzzlement to me.

I learned more about the various stressors of life in LE, and I learned more about what was coming at them from the public day to day. I developed a theory about why they are often so contentious. Here it is: I think they have to be really tough in just about every way a person CAN be tough, and this way of relating to each other helps them maintain their 'callusses', so speak. They DO in fact back each other up, even being willing to risk life and limb for each other. Those actions are the important thing, not the harsh jokes. So if you learn to take unmerciful teasing from the guy who has your back, you learn how to shrug off the trash talk of the people who really would hurt you if they had the chance. They are just words.

Some of the non-LEOs here have said they are only this way with civilians, but that is not true. They are just as rough with each other, and they'll use some of that same language to describe themselves. The difference is, some of the civilians take it to heart, whereas the cops learned a long time ago not to take it to heart, and have built up protective callusses that protect them.

It's not a pretty sight, when the fur gets flying here! But, I think it is what it is, and it is part of the culture. It is not a soft culture, it cannot BE a soft culture. They let words roll off their backs, and it is a useful skill we non-LEOs can learn from them.

That's my theory, anyways, and I'm sticking to it!

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Yeah, the fur is flying and I think I'm coughing up a fur ball. :)

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CK Your the best....


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dieselcop said:

Yeah, the fur is flying and I think I'm coughing up a fur ball. :)

LOL!

Thanks, Clover.

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Non-leo here. I agree with you ck, When I was an intern at the city PD I saw the way the police culture truly was. I also learned not to let it get to me, yes it did take a little time, But I did learn fast and yes the officers did have different views on things. I did notice a big difference in uniformed offices and dets. on their opinions. But I have learned not to be bothered by language, name calling, and etc.

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I have several co-workers honestly I can not stand out of work, when we are on duty I will back them and even risk my life to safe theirs. Noone else cares that much about us so we have to. Also Thank YOU CHAPPY


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It's a different world. You won't understand it until you are in it.

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dieselcop said:

Yeah, the fur is flying and I think I'm coughing up a fur ball. :)

Aw just admit it, diesel, you've got a lump in your throat cause you're moved by how on target Chap is.....it's okay....I've got some castor oil here if you REALLY do have a fur ball. ;-D

Chap- Excellent post! I think you are right on the money!