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Lo_max50

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Todays Army is a Volunteer one but lets look at how we are effecting families of the people who serve on that basis. The current deployment length is 15 months. The Marines do 6, Navy 4, Air Force 4. Now don't get me wrong the Army is also the biggest branch of service. I just don't think its fair also the Army only offers a year back to the Army members and their families much of which they spend training for the return to combat. I also think that stop-lossing thousands of troops who were about to get out after serving the before agreed term is unjust. Also unfair the Service member who may be taking severe losses in pay. I think these issues are too seldom brought up. This is what should be turning the votes this election.

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Rate This | Posted over 6 years ago

 

Thank you for your service to our great country.  Multiple combat tours have gotten out of hand and serve as a valid reason to reinstate the draft.  During the Vietnam-era, most Americans were not drafted; but back then, there was a greater appreciation for the military because everyone was "at risk".  Nowadays, no one is "at risk" to be drafted and they take the service members for granted.  Sadly, no politician will raise this issue.

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First, let me say thanks for your service. I know that the freedoms we enjoy were bought and paid for by our brave men and women in uniform, both past and present. I feel your pain regarding the constant deployments. This is not a new phenomena, it has been on-going since the conclusion of Operation Desert Shield/Desert Storm. That is when political leaders halved our active duty force while allowing our Optempo to increase dramatically (e.g., more to do with less people to do it with). The blame for all of this lies with leaders at all levels, from senior service chiefs to congressional leaders and finally the holder of the highest elected office. The only way any sweeping change will be made is when servicemember begin "voting with their feet". Only when retention suffers will leaders begin to look at the causes and formulate solutions.


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When I volunteered for the draft back in 1966 I knew the odds were that I was going to Nam. I only had to do a 12 month tour and I knew this going in. But look at the bright side, it wasn't WWII where guys were there for the "duration" and spent years overseas in combat. I personally feel that having an all voluntary military is putting a strain on "older" family types, at least I was 18 & single.

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There is not much to debate. Currently the military is an all volunteer military. Its members are IMO a rare breed, these young men and women enlisted knowing that the military was in the middle of a war. I have the utmost respect for our Americas Heroes fighting overseas if I may quote a little cartoon, in jest, “You knew the job was dangerous when you took it Fred”. What I’m trying to say is during my enlistment (1986-1997) initially I did join to fight a war; I did it for adventure, travel, education, and the respect that came with the title MARINE. Little did I know that some dictator by the name Sadam was going to invade a little country (Kuwait) <Where the hell is that> and before I knew it my unit was assembled, accounted for, shipped out, and on Saudi soil all within 10 days of the invasion. All I could think about was “I didn’t sign up for this” But as you can see after that mission I decided this is what I wanted to do.
 
I never did understand why there was a troop draw down after that mission, every branch was offering “early outs” before you knew our US Military forces shrunk drastically. Which leads us to our current state of our forces doing more with less.
 
I wish you and all the troops best of luck; you are all in my prayers and thank you for your service to our country.

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Rate This | Posted over 6 years ago

 

We drew down and filled all of the positions with higher paid civilians because it comes from a different part of the budget than the armed services. That allowed the C in C at the time to bragg about the "Peace Dividend" that resulted from the fall of the USSR.


As a currently serving MP, I have to say that the OPTEMPO is more than most of us bargained for when we signed up. On the other hand, I am not seeing nearly the amount of divorce or other family issues one might expect, and if the burden was too much, I don't think our reenlistment levels would be what they are (which aren't great, but they'll do). Like RetiredCop says, as least it's not for the duration. So, more pay would be nice, longer dwell time would be nice, but when all is said and done, we joined to defend against all enemies, and to obey the orders of the C in C. The contract said it could be involuntarily extended in time of war right on it. We've been warned since we were kids to read the fine print.


Judd, Sheepdog, rsteade: Thank you for remembering those of us still serving, but don't forget the families that support us and wait for us to come back home. These are the heroes WE look up to.

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My only complaint with these two wars was, and always will be "we should have went in one at a time."


We're spread way too thin to react to anywhere else in the world now and, like you said, these long deployments are taking a toll on those stilll serving in our military. I really feel sympathetic to those who serve in the National Guard who wanted to be able to protect their own communities (like in LA during Katrina for example).


Afghanistan first, then Iraq or Iran (whoever would be the biggest tyrant at the time). If we had a unified front in Afghanistan, we would probably been able to do some joint operations with the Pakistanis and actually may have even found Osama.


That's all I want to comment on this at this time...


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Rate This | Posted over 6 years ago

 

I'm former AF, I have done 7 month deployments.. and mostley 6's. I've been 3 times, There It really kills me to be there for 6 months, come home for 4 months, and go back again for another 6 months and see the exact same Army joes that I hung around with the deployment prior. If everyone got on 6 month rotations it would be so much easier... well kinda at least.


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Rate This | Posted about 6 years ago

 

Judd1116 says ...



Todays Army is a Volunteer one but lets look at how we are effecting families of the people who serve on that basis. The current deployment length is 15 months. The Marines do 6, Navy 4, Air Force 4. Now don't get me wrong the Army is also the biggest branch of service. I just don't think its fair also the Army only offers a year back to the Army members and their families much of which they spend training for the return to combat. I also think that stop-lossing thousands of troops who were about to get out after serving the before agreed term is unjust. Also unfair the Service member who may be taking severe losses in pay. I think these issues are too seldom brought up. This is what should be turning the votes this election.



Just an FYI:  Navy deployments are only 4 months for South America deployments.  Any deployments to the Med/Persian Gulf are a minimum of 6 months, but can extend indefinetly.  During Operation "Noble Anvil" I did an 8 month deployment.  Don't get me wrong, I know all too well about the Army also, and 15 months is far too long, just an FYI on Navy.

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Rate This | Posted about 6 years ago

 

Got to love it that the Navy is downsizing...not sure about the rest of the branches. Just a little info from my side of the house. I am a Hospital Corpsman stationed with Marines(which Corpsman are the largest NEC/MOS/JOB in the Navy). We provide medical support to ALL branches of the service(for those who did not know) My advanced specialty if you could call it that is Fleet Marine Force Combat Corpsman. We are the most undermanned job in the entire military and we recieve $0.00 for re-enlistment when for example, other branches are offering an upwards of $35,000 for Motor Transportation(vehicle drivers). We Thus,  low retention or re-enlistment numbers. Doesnt make sense, but its happening.