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When I was growing up my parents taught me respect for the officers and the laws themselves. I admired them as did most children. My friends and I played cops and robbers. We did silly games to see who LOST and the loser had to be the BAD guy. We shot up the neighbor hood with cap guns and sometimes just sticks.

My grade school son was wanting to play a video game. I let him. He was playing one where you beat the cop up and stole his car. I was disgusted.

Have we as a society forgotten our love for our protectors? I think so. Do you?

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That is a on going and growing problem in todays society. TV shows talk and show dirty cops they cant make a show about good cops anymore and make it cool to harm and disrespect police now days. Not to mention music some of yall that have children what is it they listen to songs like "Fuck Da Police" and "Cop Killer". I am a young man who is scared to even think about having children now days.


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I have 2 small ones with one school. I almost went to Iraq in 05 and decided against it then almost to Afghanistan in 06 and decided against it. Looking at my kids changed my mind. It also made me slow down as a cop working the streets. I used to be the one that was the first to kick in the door. With age come wisdom at least that was what I was told. Games today are as bad as music. Movies are about the same. Just about every cop movie today show a bad cop in it and makes it look good. Leave it to Hollywood. Here is s link to a web site, check it out and see just how bad some people feel about this local police department what some people are saying.

www.byrnesmillpolice.com

You either has cops or you love cops. NO inbetween. Because if you hate cops and need a cop then what happens? You still call 911 and who come to help? You win some you loose some.

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Even before I became interested in LE we taught our children to respect and obey all those in authority. I grew up in a household that feared and hated the police but I learned my respect from the officer themselves and partly do to what I saw on TV. Back then though officers were portrayed better on TV then they are now.

Having learned a little more about LE, I'm teaching my children (and others) not only to respect and obey the police but to do what we can to be understanding and supportive of them. No criticism allowed. No talking back. Respecting what they say and do. I'd like to see the level of respect for the police go back to what it was. I don't know when we lost that respect but it needs to change. Hopefully we can change peoples perception so they'll be disgusted by these video games too.

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I think one of the major changes that occurred during the 60's (before a lot of you were born!) was that the culture changed how it looks at authority. Previously authority of any sort was respected for the fact that it took responsibility for the welfare of others, was required to hold higher standards than others. Whether it was the authority of the parent in a home, the teacher in a classroom, the policeman or judge, right on up to the President of the United States.

During the sixties, lots of authorities were caught with in corruption or with their human frailties showing-- politicians, religious, law enforcement-- widespread. All sorts of scandals and quagmires. And respect for authorities was replaced by "Never trust anyone over 30."

Today, people are suspect BECAUSE they are authorities and we all "know" authorities are corrupt. And so you get painted with that suspicion before you do a thing, and even if the things you do are serving and protecting. Add to that a spirit of entitlement and rampant individualism that cares nothing for the welfare of others, and you have what we have today.

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I agree DetSarge that we are no longer thought of in terms of respect or admiration, but I think it starts and ends with the parents! If parents would parent, soooooo many of our problems woulld be illiminated! If Parents would monitor their childs activity and prevent (at least at home) their child from being exposed to these things that have been mentioned above much of this negativity could be slowed down. We all know that this is NOT going to happen though, so we have to do our best with what we have!

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Just curious..how many of you out there have actually sat down and played some of these video games.?
Grand Theft Auto,,,.Vice City,,,Liberty City... etc....

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babeblu said:

Just curious..how many of you out there have actually sat down and played some of these video games.?
Grand Theft Auto,,,.Vice City,,,Liberty City... etc....

I used to play GTA Vice City.... and I'd steal the police cars only if it was from the police stations, just because I wanted to drive a cop car.

But it's been about a year since I've last played any video game.

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I'll never forget the man I arrested for DUI about 4 years ago. He cussed me all the way to the station, before he refused the breath test. He cussed me all the way from the station to jail, said he f*cking hated cops and wished he could kill me. About 3 months after I won a conviction he called the police to report his home had been burglarized, I took his report. Neither one of us mentioned our previous contact, but it goes to show that they'll hate you until you are needed.


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My Hubby plays all of these games...but there is no way in the world I would let any child play any of them..
.. control what goes on at home,,,
#1,,,,I am the adult in the situation ,
#2...I have control of what goes on under my roof
this is not rocket science ..
They seam to be good for hand ,eye coordination ,,made me wonder how many LEO's play....

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Last night I met my wife at our local Wal-Mart..We had stopped to look at something and a young woman pushing a buggy with a child about 4-5 yrs old was sitting in the buggy. I had my duty weapon on since I just left work and the boy asked my wife who was closer to him if I was a cop and she said yes he is a Detective. Then my wife asked him if he liked Police Officers and he stated no I don't..I asked him why not that Police Officers are here to help people the boy just laughed, his mother turned around and saw what was going and she mumble something under her breath and walked off pushing the buggy....I told my wife I see where he got his attitude towards Police Officers

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Last night I met my wife at our local Wal-Mart..We had stopped to look at something and a young woman pushing a buggy with a child about 4-5 yrs old was sitting in the buggy. I had my duty weapon on since I just left work and the boy asked my wife who was closer to him if I was a cop and she said yes he is a Detective. Then my wife asked him if he liked Police Officers and he stated no I don't..I asked him why not that Police Officers are here to help people the boy just laughed, his mother turned around and saw what was going and she mumble something under her breath and walked off pushing the buggy....I told my wife I see where he got his attitude towards Police Officers

excellent point...it all starts at home....
A good parent...not....
you don't encourage your child to dislike the very people that would save his butt at the drop of a hat....
Sad,,,,a child that has a bigger possibility of winding up in the system,
a system he never had the opportunity to understand , due to the obvious ignorance of the parent....
And I am betting when you get a negative response from a child,,it is like a kick in the stomach ...

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Yes it was..I along with my wife was shocked with the response mainly with the mother...I think someone in the family got arrested and the boy witnessed this and the mother chose not to explain things to the child....because it was evident the mother did not support Law Enforcement or she would have said something to the boy.. babeblu you are right with out some sort of guidance he will very well end up in the system.

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My sons first day of school a few days a go my bf comes from the Pd and meets us there. We walk through the hall and the kids are all like is he a cop? Is he the FBI? So on and my son just looks at them all and says "no He’s My Thomas"

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I remember those days..I had to go to my step-daughter class a few years ago when she was in the 3rd grade for parent involvement day...I took my patrol unit up there and let the kids see it and turn the siren and lights on..I bet I was asked 100 times if I had shot anybody...we had a mock arrest..where I arrested the teacher for giving to much homework..the kids really loved it...I got thank you letters from the whole class for coming up there....

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ChaplainKeppy said:

I think one of the major changes that occurred during the 60's (before a lot of you were born!) was that the culture changed how it looks at authority. Previously authority of any sort was respected for the fact that it took responsibility for the welfare of others, was required to hold higher standards than others. Whether it was the authority of the parent in a home, the teacher in a classroom, the policeman or judge, right on up to the President of the United States.

During the sixties, lots of authorities were caught with in corruption or with their human frailties showing-- politicians, religious, law enforcement-- widespread. All sorts of scandals and quagmires. And respect for authorities was replaced by "Never trust anyone over 30."

Today, people are suspect BECAUSE they are authorities and we all "know" authorities are corrupt. And so you get painted with that suspicion before you do a thing, and even if the things you do are serving and protecting. Add to that a spirit of entitlement and rampant individualism that cares nothing for the welfare of others, and you have what we have today.

I think it might go back farther than that chappy, back to prohibition, when the US started to make laws that were impossible to really enforce, and the money to look the other way from a law that most cops didn't believe in . I think it started there and has gone downhill ever since......it is hard on the public to be understanding when recieving a ticket or an arrest for a minor offense that almost all cops have done at one time or another. when a police officer in paramilitary black uniform decked out in tact gear and drop holster enforces an insignificant law it breeds contempt for police. it used to be the MAN in the uniform that commanded respect for his presence and abilities, now it seems departments want to dress their patrol officers in swat gear and it has become the UNIFORM that is intimidating. i have seen local departments turning their uniform preference to tactical gear to enforce something as common traffic compliance. as i have said before we do not need more laws in america we need tougher penalities for the ones we already have.

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That's interesting, Odin. Makes me think of outlaws who became sort of legendary, almost folk-heroes-- Bonnie and Clyde, perhaps some gangsters. Is that when being an outlaw became one form of "cool"?

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I guess but we could take that back to jessie james b/c what he did with he money he stole. or people like d.b.cooper, i think everyone can identify with someone that gets away with a robbery like that without any real violence or direct harm to the community.

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Robin Hood!

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yep him too.

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pc805 said:

Last night I met my wife at our local Wal-Mart..We had stopped to look at something and a young woman pushing a buggy with a child about 4-5 yrs old was sitting in the buggy. I had my duty weapon on since I just left work and the boy asked my wife who was closer to him if I was a cop and she said yes he is a Detective. Then my wife asked him if he liked Police Officers and he stated no I don't..I asked him why not that Police Officers are here to help people the boy just laughed, his mother turned around and saw what was going and she mumble something under her breath and walked off pushing the buggy....I told my wife I see where he got his attitude towards Police Officers

This is my point.

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babeblu said:

My Hubby plays all of these games...but there is no way in the world I would let any child play any of them..
.. control what goes on at home,,,
#1,,,,I am the adult in the situation ,
#2...I have control of what goes on under my roof
this is not rocket science ..
They seam to be good for hand ,eye coordination ,,made me wonder how many LEO's play....

I broke the game.....

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My sons first day of school a few days a go my bf comes from the Pd and meets us there. We walk through the hall and the kids are all like is he a cop? Is he the FBI? So on and my son just looks at them all and says "no He’s My Thomas"

My kids loved to tell in grade school that their daddy was a cop. Middle and high school it was a secret. My youngest is still in grade school and I am requested to speak on parents day.. I drop everything to go.

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ChaplainKeppy said:

I think one of the major changes that occurred during the 60's (before a lot of you were born!) was that the culture changed how it looks at authority. Previously authority of any sort was respected for the fact that it took responsibility for the welfare of others, was required to hold higher standards than others. Whether it was the authority of the parent in a home, the teacher in a classroom, the policeman or judge, right on up to the President of the United States.

During the sixties, lots of authorities were caught with in corruption or with their human frailties showing-- politicians, religious, law enforcement-- widespread. All sorts of scandals and quagmires. And respect for authorities was replaced by "Never trust anyone over 30."

Today, people are suspect BECAUSE they are authorities and we all "know" authorities are corrupt. And so you get painted with that suspicion before you do a thing, and even if the things you do are serving and protecting. Add to that a spirit of entitlement and rampant individualism that cares nothing for the welfare of others, and you have what we have today.

Thats a good point....

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ChaplainKeppy said:


I think one of the major changes that occurred during the 60's (before a lot of you were born!) was that the culture changed how it looks at authority. Previously authority of any sort was respected for the fact that it took responsibility for the welfare of others, was required to hold higher standards than others. Whether it was the authority of the parent in a home, the teacher in a classroom, the policeman or judge, right on up to the President of the United States.

During the sixties, lots of authorities were caught with in corruption or with their human frailties showing-- politicians, religious, law enforcement-- widespread. All sorts of scandals and quagmires. And respect for authorities was replaced by "Never trust anyone over 30."

Today, people are suspect BECAUSE they are authorities and we all "know" authorities are corrupt. And so you get painted with that suspicion before you do a thing, and even if the things you do are serving and protecting. Add to that a spirit of entitlement and rampant individualism that cares nothing for the welfare of others, and you have what we have today.


I think it might go back farther than that chappy, back to prohibition, when the US started to make laws that were impossible to really enforce, and the money to look the other way from a law that most cops didn't believe in . I think it started there and has gone downhill ever since......it is hard on the public to be understanding when recieving a ticket or an arrest for a minor offense that almost all cops have done at one time or another. when a police officer in paramilitary black uniform decked out in tact gear and drop holster enforces an insignificant law it breeds contempt for police. it used to be the MAN in the uniform that commanded respect for his presence and abilities, now it seems departments want to dress their patrol officers in swat gear and it has become the UNIFORM that is intimidating. i have seen local departments turning their uniform preference to tactical gear to enforce something as common traffic compliance. as i have said before we do not need more laws in america we need tougher penalities for the ones we already have.


I agree with this odin. also, my new sheriff agrees w/odin. No more tactical uniforms unless its k-9 or swat.