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Hi I am a student at CSUMB in California, and I am in a gender and communications class and I would like to get some feedback for a project I am doing. Please answer if you have time. P.S. I am an officer's daughter, I am just trying to ask thought provoking questions.

Can women do the same job in police work as men?
Do women hold the same amount of authority on the street as men do?
How are women officers seen by their peers?
(For Women) Do you view your male peers different than you would view a female officer?

Please feel free to give me as much feedback as you would like. I appreciate any opinion you have to offer!

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Yes, women officers can do the same job, yes they can EARN (needs to be done by both male and female) the same respect and authority on the street. Women officers are viewed by their peers the same as any other officer, as long as they can do the job and don't look to be treated differently because they are a female, then they will not have a problem. I have known several male officers over the years that I would not want as my back-up because they could not effectively do their job. I spent 4 years as a police recruit Training Administrator at a police academy and had the opportunity to train both male and female recruits. I found that the largest percentage of female recruits in the program where there because they wanted to be police officers, and did not seek special treatment because of their gender. They were hard working and tended to rise to the occasion when put into a competitive arena with their male counter-parts. These women have gone on to very good police careers (Detectives, Sergeants, Lieutenants) and are well respected by their male peers.


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Woman can and do the same job in police work as men. We hold the same authority on the street, sometimes more because perps believe we'll shoot before a guy will and we are not as aggressive as men. Depends on the department how the male officers view women. Just recently LAPD accepted a female into their SWAT training which was formerly all male. I view all officers as officers, we wear the same uniform and do the same job. In my world there is no male officer or female officer, just fellow officers.

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Yes, women officers can do the same job, yes they can EARN (needs to be done by both male and female) the same respect and authority on the street. Women officers are viewed by their peers the same as any other officer, as long as they can do the job and don't look to be treated differently because they are a female, then they will not have a problem. I have known several male officers over the years that I would not want as my back-up because they could not effectively do their job. I spent 4 years as a police recruit Training Administrator at a police academy and had the opportunity to train both male and female recruits. I found that the largest percentage of female recruits in the program where there because they wanted to be police officers, and did not seek special treatment because of their gender. They were hard working and tended to rise to the occasion when put into a competitive arena with their male counter-parts. These women have gone on to very good police careers (Detectives, Sergeants, Lieutenants) and are well respected by their male peers.

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As a military cop we have a LARGE number of female cops as well. I trust them just as my fellow male counterparts. In fact, I've seen that most of the females actually paid attention better when learning their job and can outshoot most of their male counterparts. I recently had to have one of my females practice their command and control and she did it BETTER than any of the males that were on scene.

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I have seen the females that had to be moved to a desk or detective because of their size, they couldn't handle working the road but then we have others who are priceless. When we changed the height and weight requirement that let in a lot of folks men and women who are not the ideal size. We have some so small they had to have special order uniforms. One female didn't have boots till after graduation because they couldn't find any small enough.


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Retleo said:

Yes, women officers can do the same job, yes they can EARN (needs to be done by both male and female) the same respect and authority on the street. Women officers are viewed by their peers the same as any other officer, as long as they can do the job and don't look to be treated differently because they are a female, then they will not have a problem. I have known several male officers over the years that I would not want as my back-up because they could not effectively do their job. I spent 4 years as a police recruit Training Administrator at a police academy and had the opportunity to train both male and female recruits. I found that the largest percentage of female recruits in the program where there because they wanted to be police officers, and did not seek special treatment because of their gender. They were hard working and tended to rise to the occasion when put into a competitive arena with their male counter-parts. These women have gone on to very good police careers (Detectives, Sergeants, Lieutenants) and are well respected by their male peers.

Once again....the voice of REAL LIFE EXPERIENCE offers an excellent response from a male perspective......I respectfully BUMP this response....


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What a fun topic. Each officer has his or her own style of policing once they pass the "Fuzz-Nutted" rookie stage.(drive 90 everywhere, with your hair on fire, and when in doubt, arrest 'em,LOL)

You get into your first good, knock down drag out or a really hairy situation and glimpse that vision of your own mortality. You learn to work within your own limitations and what works and what doesn't.

I am 5'10" and 165. I am comfortable being a woman, and even though I am retired, I was always comfortable as an officer. I used all the tools and skills in my arsenal because talking is easier that fighting, but a really good scuffle gets the blood pumping and there is no better feeling than the suspect cuffed in the back seat of your unit, and you still trying to catch your breath.

I really din't think about male or female at a call. I did think ..."Tactics".

I always made it a point to say exactlywhat was going to do if they didn't comply and then do it. I treated people like they treated me. I carried myself in a confident, purposeful way that said you might not want to f*ck with me because I will whup your ass and then take you to jail.
If I had to raise my voice, I could definitely get your attention.

There is always someone bigger and badder than you...male or female. I had women and men I would trust with my life and I had officers that I wouldn't pee on if they were on fire...also, male and female. It has nothing to do with size...it has everything to do with "Heart"

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Over my 30 years a s an LEO and 21 asa Sergeant, I have worked with many male and female Officers. The first thing I did was to decide that they were all Officers, neither male or female. I felt if they had been qualified by the agency as Officers, then they can equally have the ability to do the job.
Yes, some were better than others and I felt that if they had the spirit and the willingness to learn and do the job properly no matter what the gender they would be fine Officers.


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It is not a question of "men vs. women" rather the question should be "what is natural?"    A man is expected to shoulder heavier and more strenuous work because he was created to do this, while a woman is expected to shoulder more of the everyday work (not because either gender is better than the other).  One gender will NATURALLY be better at one task than the other will be.  Can a guy give birth?  no......................  Can a woman kill with 'no' remorse?  (most women cannot help but feel remorse towards a dying individual ---because women were created with this mentality). 

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It is not a question of "men vs. women" rather the question should be "what is natural?"    A man is expected to shoulder heavier and more strenuous work because he was created to do this, while a woman is expected to shoulder more of the everyday work (not because either gender is better than the other).  One gender will NATURALLY be better at one task than the other will be.  Can a guy give birth?  no......................  Can a woman kill with 'no' remorse?  (most women cannot help but feel remorse towards a dying individual ---because women were created with this mentality). 



Wow, I had no idea that bountyhunter had such insight on how we are all created! The curiosity is killing me!....... Pray tell us, Wise and learned Sir, which of the "everyday" work are these women of yours "expected" to do and which of the "strenuous" tasks should we relieve them of (them being otherwise incapable)...... since we "are created" the way we are. AND... since women apparently "cant kill with no remorse" perhaps we should release those female terrorists we have in custody around the world....... All of the experts obviously had it wrong when they taught that female terrorists are some of the most vicious on earth!


Okay.... the real answer is that on the street there is no male vs female.... if an officer cant cut it on the street they wash out..... male OR female.

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bountyhunter28 says ...



It is not a question of "men vs. women" rather the question should be "what is natural?"    A man is expected to shoulder heavier and more strenuous work because he was created to do this, while a woman is expected to shoulder more of the everyday work (not because either gender is better than the other).  One gender will NATURALLY be better at one task than the other will be.  Can a guy give birth?  no......................  Can a woman kill with 'no' remorse?  (most women cannot help but feel remorse towards a dying individual ---because women were created with this mentality). 



Wow, I had no idea that bountyhunter had such insight on how we are all created! The curiosity is killing me!....... Pray tell us, Wise and learned Sir, which of the "everyday" work are these women of yours "expected" to do and which of the "strenuous" tasks should we relieve them of (them being otherwise incapable)...... since we "are created" the way we are. AND... since women apparently "cant kill with no remorse" perhaps we should release those female terrorists we have in custody around the world....... All of the experts obviously had it wrong when they taught that female terrorists are some of the most vicious on earth!


Okay.... the real answer is that on the street there is no male vs female.... if an officer cant cut it on the street they wash out..... male OR female.



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It is not a question of "men vs. women" rather the question should be "what is natural?"    A man is expected to shoulder heavier and more strenuous work because he was created to do this, while a woman is expected to shoulder more of the everyday work (not because either gender is better than the other).  One gender will NATURALLY be better at one task than the other will be.  Can a guy give birth?  no......................  Can a woman kill with 'no' remorse?  (most women cannot help but feel remorse towards a dying individual ---because women were created with this mentality). 



The point of posting is to have an original idea taken from one's own mind, not to cut and paste someone else's thought from an article you 'Googled'

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Over 40 women have written their accounts of law enforcement, etc.  You can find the list here:


http://www.police-writers.com/women_police_officer_authors.html

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The website that RaymondEFoster gave is a really good site to visit and learn about the books that these women have written. I am reading a couple of them for my class paper "Women in Law Enforcement".  They give a person some good points to follow as well as the ones not to follow all part of the learning experience. 


I have talked to some officers who want women working with them, they believe that a woman has away of calming a hostile situation. Don't know how but she does.  I would have to say "it could be the mom thing", don't know.

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 Can a woman kill with 'no' remorse?  (most women cannot help but feel remorse towards a dying individual ---because women were created with this mentality). 


 


 


Hmmmmmmm really?  I have no remorse, It was drilled out of me at Parris Island South Carolina


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