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17_2007_337_max50

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Posted about 7 years ago

 

how do you feel about police officers with tasteful tattoos?

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Provided the tattoo is not obscene then there is nothing wrong with it. Many of us have tattoos that reflect times in our lives. I personally have one visible and it is the St. Michael.

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The Baltimore City Police Dept just enacted a General Order that says if you have a visible tattoo on you arms you must wear a long sleeve shirt and tie all year round!! The new order affects all current and future officers!


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Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

NYPD just changes their guide too; any new officer must cover all visible tattoos, arm, neck, hands, etc.

It does not effect guys already on the job.

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Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

I've got 6 tatoo's, Made sure none of em showed in the short sleeves just in case somebody got a wild hair to get picky about it!!!! Its just another one of those things about cops having to hold the same image portrayed in the early 1900's. No facial hair is another that just burns me up!!!!. They say it does not look professional..... Alright then I guess Judges, Doctors, and Lawyers aren't professional HUH????

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Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

LAPD and LASO just stated that they need to cover up. i think we are all products of our own society and certain modifications should be made.

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Funny this is mentioned due to me currently writing our policy on the matter. I look forward to seeing everyone's comments...me personally, I can see both sides...even though tattoos are more acceptable these days I think there is a line you can cross....I just have to find that line and see if Admin agree's. I definitely don't think the current officers should be required to cover up what was accepted when they were hired...I'll struggle with this one for a bit since I loss count on how many tattoos I have...none are showing in uniform tho...

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I have no problems with tattoos in uniform but they must be tasteful and not be excessive if they are visible. The tribal on the bicep that appears briefly when the officer is in short sleeves and raises their arm is one thing... The mural painted from the shoulder to the wrist, or the homemade L O V E on the knuckles (or worse) is something entirely different. The military has recently made some drastic changes in their tattoo policy as well.

You know, I happened to be in DC one day and saw an officer sitting on a motorcycle in BDU's, looking like a tomato soup sandwich, with tattoos all over his arms and coming up around his neck above his collar it was one of the most unprofessional sights that I had ever seen.

Unfortunately, General Orders are written because we carry things to far and don't police ourselves causing administrators to do it.

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Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

Tattoos should not be visiable while an Officer is on duty. Officer's appearance should be one of a highly professional image to the public. Each officers personal appearance contributes to that image. Officer's appearance is important to make the best possible first impression. The Officer's professional appearance represents, authority, self confidence, and lets the public know that department has rules and regulations. Botton line a tattoo just doesn't look professional.

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Hey Chief, you wouldn't happen to have the military's SOP on Tattoos handy would ya? I've been getting surrounding agencies tattoo policy sent to me so I can see what the "norm" is around our area.... (copy/paste) would be nice or send it through e-mail....thanks... oh, and found a case law on this specific issue the other day....I believe it was Riggs vs. Ft. Worth

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Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

Tat2 I sent you the links, hopefully that helped. Let me know if you didn't get them.

There are MANY case laws that deal with dress appearances to include tattoos. JOSEPH INTURRI, ET AL., Plaintiffs, v. CITY OF HARTFORD, CONNECTICUT and BRUCE P. MARQUIS, Defendants.UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE DISTRICT OF CONNECTICUT 365 F. Supp. 2d 240; 2005 U.S. Dist. This will give you a lot of other cases that you might want to research that may lead you down the right path. As quoted in many cases, "Courts have long held that 'the city though its police chief has the right to promote a disciplined, identifiable, and impartial police force by maintaining its police uniform as a symbol of neutral government authority, free from expressions of personal bent or bias".

I would think, and this is just my opinion, that if a Chief/Department/Locality wants to restrict what their officers wear they are reasonable or they can justify themselves. As unfair as this sounds, management is also able to dictate how you are going to act off duty. Where you may be able to work, who you can associate with, where you can live. The Courts have routinely sided with management, on these issues because of who we are and what we do, there goes that higher standard again.

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Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

Thanks Chief - got it....I just sent my 12 page research paper up the Chain....we'll see what the verdict is. thanks again and be safe...

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Rated +1 | Posted about 7 years ago

 

I think if it's tasteful and not sleeved to the extremes, I don't have problems with tats showing. Mine are all hidden myself.


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Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

Strange thing is most all Depts. give extra credit to Vets on the entrance exams.

And what did these Vets do while in the service? Get Tattoos. So in effect, applicants with tattoos get preference in being hired.

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Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

Anyone know about being in a Detention Deputy and having visable tattoos in Florida?

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Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

Hey there GONE. I am currently in the military and might be able to at least tell you what I know about the tat policy. For the Army at least, they do not want anything that would show while in uniform (long sleeves and pants), and any that you have cannot be racially charged, or perceived at offensive. Unfortunately, the Army gives waivers to many soldiers with tattoos that do not meet the standard in order to achieve their desired quota. I have three soldiers in my Battery alone with tattoos on their neck, one of which is an area code, one a bar code, and one is the guys mom's name. Also have a few soldiers with tattoos on their hands. I have seen a few ring tattoos and also the sort of LOVE tattoo on the knuckles like you spoke of. Sorry if this doesn't really help.... Stay safe out there everyone!

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Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

JenWynne, yes I know some Deputy's that work in the Detention Center that have tattoos that are visible. I also know street cops with some visible tats but none are the gaudy sleeve types. We have to remember that many people are actually offended for whatever reason, right or wrong, concerning tats and we do not wish to offend if at all possible. Small tats that are not profane in nature, or like one said, that LOVE & HATE on the fingers, are usually okay and unoffensive. Tats on the neck and face are not acceptable. Use common sense guys.

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Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

I have tattoos on my shoulders and one is of a badge with a thin blue line across it.

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I have three that show in SS. I do realise that some members of the public are not acepting of tats, so I wear long sleeves most of the time, except for when it is hot out side.

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Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

Johnny Law 66-

I'd be a little concerned with the guy with the "area code" on his neck:
http://cfs.vrhome.com/gang/index2.html

While I'm not going to comment on his commitment to his Unit or his fellow soldiers, any other activity with the guy I would steer clear of.

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Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

On the main topic, all five of my tat's are concealed even in short sleeves, except the SERT tat on my calf. By todays standards, you might consider them conservative.

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Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

Hey Lt. I guess it's a universal location. All of my guys have their SOU tat's on their calves as well.

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Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

I know the NYS Troopers say that absolutely no tattoos are permitted if they are visible at all in short sleeves. Either they go or you go is the way the make it seem to work.

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Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

I have no problem with tattoos. Obviously there needs to me a limit to them in reference to what they are of. An officer cannot have a tattoo that is offensive to someone. In our dept. you can have them. There are a couple of guys with full sleeves.

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Rated +1 | Posted about 7 years ago

 

Tats are sexy, if tastefully done and displayed. I've got 5, small ones.


"It would be better for one to have a stone tied around their neck and thrown into the sea, than to cause a child to stumble."

"Well-behaved women rarely make history"

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Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

On duty, they need to be covered.


"It would be better for one to have a stone tied around their neck and thrown into the sea, than to cause a child to stumble."

"Well-behaved women rarely make history"

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Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

As a Chief for a Municipal Agency I have mixed views. I have visible tattoos however, none are offensive. I do believe however, that there is an "extent" to visible tattoos that should be allowed in law enforcement. Tastefull and selective in my opinion are ok, but come one...."FTW" on the neck, like one officer I have seen is just rediculous!!
Like I said, just my opinion.

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Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

FTW? WTF?
Homeboy needs some EAP.

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I personally prefer to keep my ink covered even in short sleves. As stated before, lots of us have things on us that represent something significant in our lives. As far as others I don't consider it a problem (but alot of the Holy'r than thou's do) as long as it's not in excess or vulgar to any point. I worked with an officer several years ago that had a very distasteful tat that was extremely "detaliled" of a naked woman "spread eagle" on his forearm. That's taking it overboard no matter who you are.


"Certainly there is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men and liked it never really care for anything else thereafter. You will meet them doing various other things with resolve, but their interest rarely holds because after the other thing ordinary life is as flat as the taste of wine after the taste buds have been burned off your tongue." Ernest Hemingway

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Rate This | Posted almost 8 years ago

 

I think that tatoos are just a way of expressing ourselves like with what clothes we wear....As long as they are not offensive or excessive i think they should be allowed! They help show that LEO are Human!

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