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Posted almost 7 years ago

 

Have you (or anyone you know) suffered from harassment due to your religious beliefs? If so what if anything was done?


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Rated +1 | Posted almost 7 years ago

 

What an wonderful site! Thanks for the invite. I wasn't harassed as such, but I noticed a change of attitude in one supervisor when he found out I was LDS, and this had a trickle down effect in attitude to other supervisors which led to less hours and undesireable postings. It also didn't help that I was the only female in our central California division. But of course, nothing overt, or anything that I could prove clearly. But the only Sgt position was eliminated (mine) and an officer that I had trained, became a Lt and supervised me. Hmmmm....... This was on a contract security position for the Federal Govenment, and several friends said I should follow up, but it was easier to take an early out and retire.

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Rated +2 | Posted over 6 years ago

 

Racism is ignorence and I avoid ignorent people all together. I give them nothing therefore they take nothing!!!

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Rated +1 | Posted over 6 years ago

 

How is harrasment to your religious beliefs RACISM?

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Rated +1 | Posted over 6 years ago

 

Tim,
While my wording may not have been 100% accurate, I have seen many protests against jews with posters saying things like zionism = racism.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/racism
rac·ism - Show Spelled Pronunciation[rey-siz-uh m] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

[Origin: 1865–70;


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Rated +1 | Posted over 6 years ago

 

I define Racism as a bigotry towards ones ethnicity or race. I believe we are all members of one race the human race.
I see the two totally different terms: Religious discrimination or harassment would be just that, towards ones religious preference.

Neither should be tolerated. I see police as positive role models for society not promoters of racism,bigotry,or religious intolerance etc.

Peace. May God Bless as you protect and serve.

Tom in Utah


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Rated +1 | Posted over 6 years ago

 

I have been judged on more than one occasion for having blonde hair and blue eyes, and add the fact that I was a California native, it caused an assumptive instant drop in my IQ rating. I have no more control over my birth heritage than any other person of any other complextion or nationality. In fact I was accused of being akin to KKK by a person of color. Nevermind that I had 2 foster daughters of the same race as the accuser living in my home. I was judged by my race and not my heart, and they were not willing to get to know me as a person beyond my skin color. By the way, I do not have an inborn ability to surf either.

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Rated +1 | Posted over 6 years ago

 

I am so glad I got my lesson for the day.

Now I know the difference between racism and harrasment.

I feel so educated now.

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Rated +1 | Posted over 6 years ago

 

tva448 said:

I am so glad I got my lesson for the day.

Now I know the difference between racism and harrasment.

I feel so educated now.

Glad to be of service...


Too many youngsters get their hands on firearms without proper supervision. Keep your guns secure from ALL unauthorized persons! Lets stop burying children - PLEASE (jal.fast@yahoo.com)

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Rated +1 | Posted over 6 years ago

 

I know this is an old post, but I'll reply regardless.


I did - I had a Lt. who couldn't stand Jewish personnel. I tried to consider that maybe it was coincidental - I found out in another borough it was factual. As a patrol officer he worked my precinct, and tried his damnest to place me on crap detail - that was fine I was able to always create overtime out of those details. He became incensed when he placed me on a Good Friday detail - prior to going out to the detail he was behind the desk talking with the CO when I asked for lost time because of Passover - he looked at me and stated "you have a detail" - the CO leaned over and handed me a UF28 (Vacation Slip), and asked when I need to leave - I said immediately - he said have a good evening and happy holiday.


A couple of years later in another borough my name was mentioned as a suggestion for the undercover unit - he was the CO - word got back to me by more than two officers that stated "That Jew bastard will come into this unit over my dead body" - well I went to highway, and wouldn't you know it - I pulled over his son - Jew bastard got to sign a summons with the Lt.s last name as a recipient. I was asked about it by a senior officer - I shrugged my shoulders and said he was just another speeder - tell him fight it or pay it.


 


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Rated +1 | Posted over 6 years ago

 

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I know this is an old post, but I'll reply regardless.


I did - I had a Lt. who couldn't stand Jewish personnel. I tried to consider that maybe it was coincidental - I found out in another borough it was factual. As a patrol officer he worked my precinct, and tried his damnest to place me on crap detail - that was fine I was able to always create overtime out of those details. He became incensed when he placed me on a Good Friday detail - prior to going out to the detail he was behind the desk talking with the CO when I asked for lost time because of Passover - he looked at me and stated "you have a detail" - the CO leaned over and handed me a UF28 (Vacation Slip), and asked when I need to leave - I said immediately - he said have a good evening and happy holiday.


A couple of years later in another borough my name was mentioned as a suggestion for the undercover unit - he was the CO - word got back to me by more than two officers that stated "That Jew bastard will come into this unit over my dead body" - well I went to highway, and wouldn't you know it - I pulled over his son - Jew bastard got to sign a summons with the Lt.s last name as a recipient. I was asked about it by a senior officer - I shrugged my shoulders and said he was just another speeder - tell him fight it or pay it.


 Brother I found the same problem on the job back in the late 70's & up to my retirement, my last name couldn't be more Jewish since my Dad was not my Mom I was brought up Christian but VERY proud to know both sides!!



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Rated +1 | Posted almost 6 years ago

 

I have experienced racism first hand in law enforcement and in civilian jobs. Amazing how much is still out there. And nothing ever transpires from it. I just move on and let them hang themselves as is inevitable.


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Rated +1 | Posted almost 6 years ago

 

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I have experienced racism first hand in law enforcement and in civilian jobs. Amazing how much is still out there. And nothing ever transpires from it. I just move on and let them hang themselves as is inevitable.



Yep, its definately there isnt it.  Ive experienced it before I was in LE, and even experienced it while I have been in LE from other LEOs.  Didnt experience too much of it in the regular Army, but have in the Army Guard because of the "good ole boy" network of the Guard. I dont think its going anywhere soon.  When I learn people are like that, I just avoid them as they are not going to change.

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Rated +1 | Posted almost 6 years ago

 

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How is harrasment to your religious beliefs RACISM?

We are a religion and a race.


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Rated +1 | Posted almost 6 years ago

 

c/mon no one likes bald, fat crabby old men who smoke.

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Rated +1 | Posted almost 6 years ago

 

haha


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Rated +1 | Posted almost 6 years ago

 

Wait a minute...I am getting old, sometimes crabby, working on the fat(not going that well for me, honestly) and smoke..........What does that say for me?!


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Rated +1 | Posted almost 6 years ago

 

Reading this tread has me thinking about counties that suffer from black on black in Africa, Catholics against Protestants in Ireland, Muslims against Jews in Israel,  poor against the rich now in the United States, whats new on Earth?


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Rated +1 | Posted almost 6 years ago

 

When will ignorant people realize we are just people first? We all feel pain, bleed, bruise, love, feel sad, cry, feel happiness,


get sick, , get hungry, and die. We all do thses things. What color or religion or what ever else is secondary to anything else we do.


It should not play a part at all but, since it does with so many people it will run secondary.


It (the color) does not run at all with me. We are people and must stand together in one country. Nothing divided.


Let me quit now.


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Rated +1 | Posted almost 6 years ago

 

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South says ...



I have experienced racism first hand in law enforcement and in civilian jobs. Amazing how much is still out there. And nothing ever transpires from it. I just move on and let them hang themselves as is inevitable.



Yep, its definately there isnt it.  Ive experienced it before I was in LE, and even experienced it while I have been in LE from other LEOs.  Didnt experience too much of it in the regular Army, but have in the Army Guard because of the "good ole boy" network of the Guard. I dont think its going anywhere soon.  When I learn people are like that, I just avoid them as they are not going to change.



I ran into it in the Guard as well. Active duty is far different. Funny thing is, I have a buddy from Palestine. He moved here because of the racism on both sides over there. He has experienced it here as well. He says not as much, though.


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Rated +1 | Posted almost 6 years ago

 

South says ...



PSD_TEAM_LEADER says ...



South says ...



I have experienced racism first hand in law enforcement and in civilian jobs. Amazing how much is still out there. And nothing ever transpires from it. I just move on and let them hang themselves as is inevitable.



Yep, its definately there isnt it.  Ive experienced it before I was in LE, and even experienced it while I have been in LE from other LEOs.  Didnt experience too much of it in the regular Army, but have in the Army Guard because of the "good ole boy" network of the Guard. I dont think its going anywhere soon.  When I learn people are like that, I just avoid them as they are not going to change.



I ran into it in the Guard as well. Active duty is far different. Funny thing is, I have a buddy from Palestine. He moved here because of the racism on both sides over there. He has experienced it here as well. He says not as much, though.



Yes indeed, the regular Army is a bunch of guys from all over the USA, often from other countries as well.  The Guard on the other hand are people from down the street, around the corner, etc etc.....totally different network. 


The regular Army has been the most racism free environment in American society.

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Rated +1 | Posted almost 6 years ago

 

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South says ...



PSD_TEAM_LEADER says ...



South says ...



I have experienced racism first hand in law enforcement and in civilian jobs. Amazing how much is still out there. And nothing ever transpires from it. I just move on and let them hang themselves as is inevitable.



Yep, its definately there isnt it.  Ive experienced it before I was in LE, and even experienced it while I have been in LE from other LEOs.  Didnt experience too much of it in the regular Army, but have in the Army Guard because of the "good ole boy" network of the Guard. I dont think its going anywhere soon.  When I learn people are like that, I just avoid them as they are not going to change.



I ran into it in the Guard as well. Active duty is far different. Funny thing is, I have a buddy from Palestine. He moved here because of the racism on both sides over there. He has experienced it here as well. He says not as much, though.



Yes indeed, the regular Army is a bunch of guys from all over the USA, often from other countries as well.  The Guard on the other hand are people from down the street, around the corner, etc etc.....totally different network. 


The regular Army has been the most racism free environment in American society.



Bump that! Yeah, I was in this unit in a VERY small town. Just the town itself was a culture shock; then you add the "locals" into the unit and boy o boy........or maybe oy oy oy!!


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South says ...



I have experienced racism first hand in law enforcement and in civilian jobs. Amazing how much is still out there. And nothing ever transpires from it. I just move on and let them hang themselves as is inevitable.



Yep, its definately there isnt it.  Ive experienced it before I was in LE, and even experienced it while I have been in LE from other LEOs.  Didnt experience too much of it in the regular Army, but have in the Army Guard because of the "good ole boy" network of the Guard. I dont think its going anywhere soon.  When I learn people are like that, I just avoid them as they are not going to change.



How much have you seen that in the Guard?


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Rated +1 | Posted almost 6 years ago

 

Don't know about PSD_Team_Leader, but the unit I was in was pretty bad. It isn't present in every unit, though.


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Rated +1 | Posted almost 6 years ago

 

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Don't know about PSD_Team_Leader, but the unit I was in was pretty bad. It isn't present in every unit, though.



Intresting. Didn't know it was an issue. I've been going through the process for the Maryland National Guard. Wonder how spread it is in our area,


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My friends and my loved ones..I'll leave there's no doubt
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Rated +1 | Posted almost 6 years ago

 

Cannot say, there, bro.


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Rated +1 | Posted almost 6 years ago

 

It all depends on where your unit is it seems, and frankly who you are and what your background is.


The Guard is simply much more of a good old boy environment in Texas anyway.  Im sure its a bit different some where like NY or california.  The regular Army on the other hand, from day one youre all taught that youre the same, your roommate may be a Samoan from Utah, an Italian from NYC, a Mexican from Texas, a Native American from Arizona, etc etc etc.

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Rated +1 | Posted over 5 years ago

 

Remember in the movie Serpico when NYPD Chief Green told Frank of his dream, on Saint Patrick's Day hes laying on the ground on 5th. ave. and a hundred Irish cops are walking over him, who hadn't had that type of dream??


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