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How effective do you believe the D.C. gun bad has been, and how do you feel about the upcoming Supreme Court ruling on it? How do you believe it will affect the rest of the country?

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Waste of time and hasn't done anything to stop the murder rate there. By the way when are they supposed to rule on that anyway?

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The Supreme Court will hear arguments most likely in March, with a ruling expected by the end of June.

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This should prove interesting. I can't stand the feeling of knowing so few people can determine the future of my rights.

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I think I better start saving now, so I can buy the guns I want before they ban them. Pretty soon we will be down to slingshots while the criminals still have guns.

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A ban will never stop the murder rate...period!

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Only the rate of criminals being killed by the law abiding citizens will go down.

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Name the three cities with the most gun laws...... Now name the three cities with the highest crime rate....... Guess what there the same.....


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I don't really know what to say about this... I'm against any gun ban... go ahead start throwing your spears at me I'm wearing level 4 body armor!

I'm against regulating any type of restriction or ban with firearms at all.

Now explosives, such as grenade/rocket launchers, grenades, pipe bombs, C4/Semtex, claymores, land mines and anything else that happens to make an excessively large BOOM. I'm all for keeping that stuff away from people other then the military.


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"Shall not be infringed upon." It doesn't say "may" be infringed upon.

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danR8 said:

"Shall not be infringed upon." It doesn't say "may" be infringed upon.

We need to invest more effort teaching our illiterate politicians to read. This is as simple as a statement can be.

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This ruling, either way should have some profound impacts on gun legislation across the nation. It will be a crucial ruling for both sides. If you have followed the NRA's coverage on this topic, you'll know that the majority of case law and precedence leans towards an Individual's Right as opposed to the "collective" Right of the State. If the USSC rules in favor of the current ban, be prepared for some serious long term implications destroying the rest of our Individual Rights as spelled out by the Bill of Rights. Think about how it would affect individual's Rights to Freedom of Religion and many others.... It's interesting to note that officials in DC considered revising the current law instead of going forward to the USSC.... www.nra.org


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rhallpiper said:

danR8 said:

"Shall not be infringed upon." It doesn't say "may" be infringed upon.

We need to invest more effort teaching our illiterate politicians to read. This is as simple as a statement can be.

The 2nd amendment as read implies the right to bear arms in order to over throw an oppressive government. How many people are going to try to over throw our government with handguns? "Politicians" can in fact read, and "Judges" interpret laws...I think it's WAY beyond time we reinterpreted this amendment and looked at it for what it really is. The second amendment only applies to those active in a militia, I'm sorry, but it doesn't protect the so-called rights of any idiot who wishes to carry or own handguns.

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CJS said:

How effective do you believe the D.C. gun bad has been, and how do you feel about the upcoming Supreme Court ruling on it? How do you believe it will affect the rest of the country?

The DC gun ban has done an excellent job in disarming crime victims.

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trishthrall said:

rhallpiper said:

danR8 said:

"Shall not be infringed upon." It doesn't say "may" be infringed upon.

We need to invest more effort teaching our illiterate politicians to read. This is as simple as a statement can be.

The 2nd amendment as read implies the right to bear arms in order to over throw an oppressive government. How many people are going to try to over throw our government with handguns? "Politicians" can in fact read, and "Judges" interpret laws...I think it's WAY beyond time we reinterpreted this amendment and looked at it for what it really is. The second amendment only applies to those active in a militia, I'm sorry, but it doesn't protect the so-called rights of any idiot who wishes to carry or own handguns.

A bit narrow minded trish.


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trishthrall said:

rhallpiper said:

danR8 said:

"Shall not be infringed upon." It doesn't say "may" be infringed upon.

We need to invest more effort teaching our illiterate politicians to read. This is as simple as a statement can be.

The 2nd amendment as read implies the right to bear arms in order to over throw an oppressive government. How many people are going to try to over throw our government with handguns? "Politicians" can in fact read, and "Judges" interpret laws...I think it's WAY beyond time we reinterpreted this amendment and looked at it for what it really is. The second amendment only applies to those active in a militia, I'm sorry, but it doesn't protect the so-called rights of any idiot who wishes to carry or own handguns.

Trish,

The 2nd amendment is included in something called THE BILL OF RIGHTS - which specifically grant rights to INDIVIDUAL CITIZENS. The right to keep and bear arms is an individual right because it references "the people". The Supreme Court has already ruled that references to "the people" infer an individual right. Note that other amendments specifically call out "the state" when a distinction needs to be made - even notable, liberal history scholars agree. Go back to school and take a few History classes. PoliceLink can help you, to find a school right for you, visit http://edu.policelink.com

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This ruling, either way should have some profound impacts on gun legislation across the nation. It will be a crucial ruling for both sides. If you have followed the NRA's coverage on this topic, you'll know that the majority of case law and precedence leans towards an Individual's Right as opposed to the "collective" Right of the State. If the USSC rules in favor of the current ban, be prepared for some serious long term implications destroying the rest of our Individual Rights as spelled out by the Bill of Rights. Think about how it would affect individual's Rights to Freedom of Religion and many others.... It's interesting to note that officials in DC considered revising the current law instead of going forward to the USSC.... www.nra.org

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trishthrall said:

rhallpiper said:

danR8 said:

"Shall not be infringed upon." It doesn't say "may" be infringed upon.

We need to invest more effort teaching our illiterate politicians to read. This is as simple as a statement can be.

The 2nd amendment as read implies the right to bear arms in order to over throw an oppressive government. How many people are going to try to over throw our government with handguns? "Politicians" can in fact read, and "Judges" interpret laws...I think it's WAY beyond time we reinterpreted this amendment and looked at it for what it really is. The second amendment only applies to those active in a militia, I'm sorry, but it doesn't protect the so-called rights of any idiot who wishes to carry or own handguns.

So, "officer", do you belive the police are the only ones that need to be armed in order to protect citizens? I don't know how long you have been a "police officer", but we cannot protect every citizen. They have an obligation to protect themselves until we arrive and thus every law-abiding citizen has every right to own a handgun(s) for protection. We arrest the bad guys usually AFTER the fact, not during! Read John Lott's book "More Guns, Less Crime". It has been proven, scientifically, that the more CCW permits per county, the lower the crime. There are no scientific studies proving that gun laws prevent crime. Not a one! By the way, were you originally from San Fransicko?

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if they take the guns away from the good guys and only the criminals will be armed!

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It has historically been seen (England, Australia and in DC) if you hand guns the crime rates go up. It does not take much sense to understand.

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larkinforce said:

It has historically been seen (England, Australia and in DC) if you hand guns the crime rates go up. It does not take much sense to understand.

If it doesn’t “take much sense to understand”, then what’s that saying about the people who supposedly are representing us? It doesn’t give you much faith in the system.

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CJS said:

How effective do you believe the D.C. gun bad has been, and how do you feel about the upcoming Supreme Court ruling on it? How do you believe it will affect the rest of the country?

The DC gun ban has done an excellent job in disarming crime victims.

Amen! Only honest citizens obey the law, so it has no effect on the criminals.


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The Supreme Court will side with the Citizens, however; I think they will place some restrictions on the assault weapons, or remand it back to the States. I am not worried in the least. I have faith in our Constitution and the High Court.


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The Supreme Court will side with the Citizens, however; I think they will place some restrictions on the assault weapons, or remand it back to the States. I am not worried in the least. I have faith in our Constitution and the High Court.

I really don't have that kind of confidence in our Supreme Court. I personally am worried. This could very well be the catalyst for a revolt and blood shed we have never seen before in this country. I'm not talking about a full on North vs South kind of thing. I'm talking Law Enforcement being attacked because citizens will view us as the enemy instead of the courts that did this. This is not good! No matter what your stance on this issue is, it will be very bad if they rule to take guns away from the citizens. I just don't think the masses will allow this to happen with out blood shed. Freedom once lost can only be regained with blood. Governments will not relinquish power unless it is pried from their grasp. I know it was done with very little civil uprising in Australia but Americans are different. We are much more diverse and yet bound by a commonality.

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The second amendment gives you the right own and bear arms. Now I want to know why does the supreme court want to take away our second amendment? The cty of Portland,Or wants to disarm there police officers and issue them tasers. Thepolice sai no way will you do this. There union backed them up also. They still carrya handgun to this day up there. When I lived up there I worked an apartment complex as an armed security officer. The police and county sherriff would not go to in there unless there was another officer with them and the reason is because it was a drug running and black arms market. I was there by myself with a 9MM. If they an weapons there will be more deaths of LEO's nation wide because they can bring the guns in via the mexican border since mexico has no weapon ban. Canada has a weapon ban but the residents up there have hidden there guns in areas that are secret compartments in there home. Those people that have done that live in rural areas where the nearst officer can be up to 30 miles away. We will have the same problem here if they do a national gun ban. They cant even stop a suicidel man from enerig D.C. wit an assualt weapon and firing on the whit house. I just saw that video the other day on tv. That happened when Clinton was President. AT Least the Secret Service had automatic weapons at the time. Now if the same situation happens when LEOS dont have weapons that equals a deadly situation for us. Let Us KEEP OUR WEAPONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Am I reading this correctly. The Supreme court ruled in favor of the 2nd Amendment? Say it isn't so. Could God love me that much?

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trishthrall said:

rhallpiper said:

danR8 said:

"Shall not be infringed upon." It doesn't say "may" be infringed upon.

We need to invest more effort teaching our illiterate politicians to read. This is as simple as a statement can be.

The 2nd amendment as read implies the right to bear arms in order to over throw an oppressive government. How many people are going to try to over throw our government with handguns? "Politicians" can in fact read, and "Judges" interpret laws...I think it's WAY beyond time we reinterpreted this amendment and looked at it for what it really is. The second amendment only applies to those active in a militia, I'm sorry, but it doesn't protect the so-called rights of any idiot who wishes to carry or own handguns.

Let's talk about the 2nd Amendment "as read". Here it is:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
It doesn't read, "the right of the Milita to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. It also does not read, "the right of the state to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. " The right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. I don't see the controversy. The amendment is clear. Our liberal friends just get hung up on the words militia and state. If you take that portion out of the amendment, there is still a right being granted, and that right is granted to the PEOPLE, not the state, and not members of a militia. And, as stated earlier, the Supreme Court has previously ruled that references to "the people" speak to individual rights, not the rights of the states.

It also does not "imply the right to bear arms in order to over throw an oppressive government". This amendment is meant to prevent a tyrannical, or oppressive government from taking control in the first place. I don't know how many people are going to try to "overthrow our government with handguns", but I do know that I will use any weapon at my disposal to defend my family, my friends, my community or my country from bad guys. And as the DC ban extends to long guns as well as handguns, there is relevence.

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danR8 said:

Am I reading this correctly. The Supreme court ruled in favor of the 2nd Amendment? Say it isn't so. Could God love me that much?

They haven't issued a ruling yet, but five justices definitely acknowledged in today's session that the 2nd amendment is an INDIVIDUAL RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS. Positive news so far.

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danR8 said:

Am I reading this correctly. The Supreme court ruled in favor of the 2nd Amendment? Say it isn't so. Could God love me that much?

They haven't issued a ruling yet, but five justices definitely acknowledged in today's session that the 2nd amendment is an INDIVIDUAL RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS. Positive news so far.

So what are we looking at as far as a ruling from them. Some time in November?

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I've heard conservative talk show hosts in my area, one of which used to be a federal prosecuter, state the session with the Supreme Court needs to be finished end of June or early July.

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