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My wife & Kids will always come before my job. This to me is a no brainer.

True! Jaykiss You're totally right My Wife and Kids come First before my Job! I like scenerios hey if someone has a really hard one, then post it!

Wife and kids come fiorst. This POS will get his and I would try to be the one that is right there when it happens to him.

There are sooooo many variables involved......first of all, the security in a sallyport entering and leaving a facility should prevent this scenario from ever happening.....secondly, I know my facility has a cruiser that checks every vehicle that comes into the parking lot, name, license of all occupants, etc, etc....you need to trust the security at your facility.........I would also use my IPC skills to try to talk to this inmate to diffuse this situation because in my honest opinion, only the most desperate inmate would attempt this and my wife and kids would probably be killed whether I gave up the uniform or not. That is just plain reality.

Yes, I agree that anything can happen. I have been working behind the walls now for going on 10 years with two different agencies and I see new things and learn new things every day. Not a day goes by that an inmate doesn't try to get one over on me, and I'll be the first to admit that I don't see everything or catch everything and yes, sometimes they get the best of me. I realize that not every facility is run the same or has the same policy/procedure for security in place. I do know from my own experience that no gate/door to the outside is ever unlocked without the person in the vestiblue being properly identified by photo id. I also know that if the officer in central control doesn't see me on the camera in cell block and I don't answer the radio call or the phone, the cavalry will come looking for me.....so in the amount of time it takes for me to change clothes in a closet or cell with this inmate, I'm off camera....soooo, not that it can't happen, but there is alot of things inplace to prevent this sort of thing........my thought about saving my family wouldn't be giving up the uniform, it would be the inmate getting out because I know he wouldn't.....even if my family was held hostage, no other officer is going to risk his/her job and let this inmate out........policy states that officers don't let inmates out even in hostage situation....if the gun was pointed at my head and I told them to open the gate, my fellow officers wouldn't open it...I'd probably be shanked or shot........it sucks but its reality. We can play the "what if" game all day long....no one knows how they will act unless actually put into that situation. Like I said, I could give up the uniform, but it doesn't necessarily save my family. It's never that simple....Even if the inmate did make it out......do you think he would actually release your family....maybe....after he had his way with them...maybe not....I've been lied to by inmates enough to know that just because I give up the uniform and he gets out doesn't mean my family if off the hook. I'm a realist and that is how I view this situation. I apologize if I'm reading too deep into this question, but I know what my policy is, and the actual chance of an inmate walking out under these circumstances.

deskwared said:

do whatever they say to save your family. Jails have more cameras around than a hollywood movie set. They'll be caught by the boys in blue! And that "buddy" on the inside, on the phone, well - he should be charged with stupidity. He gets a kidnapping rap along with whatever else AND he doesnt get to escape.

Follow his request that day... Kill him later. Family comes first!!