General Forums >> The Lobby >> tell me what you think of my idea.. please

Rate

tell me what you think of my idea.. please

249 Views
18 Replies Flag as inappropriate
E196_1

60 posts

back to top

Posted about 7 years ago

 

ok so i saw the video of the officer getting shot in the face on a traffic stop in the middle of nowhere but staying alive and shooting back, and radioing for backup, i thought to myself but what if he couldnt? i came up with this idea. it would be a sensor that goes into an officers vest and connects wirelessly to the dispatch, and it would be able to differenciate everyday things like walking, driving etc. from getting shot, being in a struggle, being in a pursuit, etc. the sensor would be able to tell the situation to dispatch, for instance say an officer was shot and unable to call for someone, then the dispatchers screen would show an alert with the units callsign, and location and would automatically send fills code 3, and rescue code 3 as a precaution. or if you were in a pursuit, you just say the word pursuit, and then the sensor shows up the word PURSUIT on the dispatchers computer, and it would constant updated locations, etc. or if a struggle insued, it might be a fatal split second decision to take your focus and attention off of fighting with a suspect to push the little red button, again i am not an LEO which is why i ask for your opinions, i am still working on ways to make this idea better, any tips, or suggestions would be looked at and tried, if this system does go into production i will try to sell the idea to SAFARILAND VESTS, and MOTOROLLA COMMUNICATIONS. i would really like to try and improve the chances of survival for the officer if the time came. thank you for reading this

E196_1

60 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

i do not know what it is like to be an actual peace officer, i have only gone out on ride alongs, which is why i ask actual peace officers of their oppinions, would you use it?

Showletter_max50

32 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

Cant see where this would help if you were shot in the face like the officer you mentioned above.


Someday, someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.

Mercersburg_max50

468 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

It could be a good idea, But I also know on Motorolla Radio's you already have a panic button that if pressed automatically notifies dispatch of your emergency. it gives the radio number and who it assigned too. You put something like that in a vest, you are giving the deaprtment control, they will know where you are at all times, what you are doing and could raise alot of questions. If i am understanding what you are asking correctly it would be a sensor with some type of GPS built in. Am I corret on that?

E196_1

60 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

the sensor, doesnt only pick vibrations up from the vest, but any where else on the body. my goal is to get the mythbusters to help design this and put it together for a prototype, because we know they have the knowledge, and materials. i really want this to happen, so i can help lower the number of officers killed in the line of duty. thank you for the point though. much appreciated

Big_dog_pd_max50

172 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

State Police have mdt's with that type of stuff, panic buttons, gps coordinates but the whole package is pretty big would be a tough job to make it small enough. Hi tech costs big money you'd have to make it cheap work with it see what happens

E196_1

60 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

jdp215 said:

It could be a good idea, But I also know on Motorolla Radio's you already have a panic button that if pressed automatically notifies dispatch of your emergency. it gives the radio number and who it assigned too. You put something like that in a vest, you are giving the deaprtment control, they will know where you are at all times, what you are doing and could raise alot of questions. If i am understanding what you are asking correctly it would be a sensor with some type of GPS built in. Am I corret on that?

yes but the gps wont turn on unless activated by a shock to the body, or the whole, in pursuit thing. this is like the red button, but if an officer is rendered unconcious, or even shot, they cant push the red button, the vest then senses the forces applied at radios for help automaticlly. and if your in a struggle it would pick up on the forces applied and send a message to dispatch giving the type of incedent the officers involved in. the dispatcher will then radio the officer, and if they get no reply then they make sure to bump the fills up to code 3, and have medics on standby. thanks for the comment

E196_1

60 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

ddsppd11 said:

State Police have mdt's with that type of stuff, panic buttons, gps coordinates but the whole package is pretty big would be a tough job to make it small enough. Hi tech costs big money you'd have to make it cheap work with it see what happens

i am in the process of seeing if the mythbusters could help me, i am pretty sure they will, i just dont know yet. yes it would be tough to make it small enough, but im up for the challenge. thanks for the post

100e0891___resize_max50

182 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

I'm going to piggy-back off of this topic. I have heard of some departments putting GPS on vehicles to track where the officers go. What do you think about GPS on your vehicles in general? Do/would they make you uncomfortable, and thus feel like your performance in the job would suffer?

E196_1

60 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

johnny_law66 said:

I'm going to piggy-back off of this topic. I have heard of some departments putting GPS on vehicles to track where the officers go. What do you think about GPS on your vehicles in general? Do/would they make you uncomfortable, and thus feel like your performance in the job would suffer?

i am borderline on that subject, granted it can help an officer, but it could also be their downfall. i wouldnt know because i am not an LEO, but if i was it would make me feel uneasy, and always think of where i was and what i was doing. this product that i am designing would not send a gps signal unless activated by the distress sensor going off.

E196_1

60 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

this is similar to the type of vest i plan on using, the radio will be a motorola mtx 3000, i am still working on the wirless transmission system. http://www.chiefsupply.com/Law_Enforcement/Body_Armor/Concealable_Body_Armor/T-2

15437_1266403054653_1067074389_873402_825427_n_max50

29 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

the fire service has a PASS device, Personal Alert Safety System, see how they work and yo might find some stuff you can use.

E196_1

60 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

fireems31 said:

the fire service has a PASS device, Personal Alert Safety System, see how they work and yo might find some stuff you can use.

thank you very much for the tip, where could i find one?

Mercersburg_max50

468 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

hondarider said:


jdp215 said:


It could be a good idea, But I also know on Motorolla Radio's you already have a panic button that if pressed automatically notifies dispatch of your emergency. it gives the radio number and who it assigned too. You put something like that in a vest, you are giving the deaprtment control, they will know where you are at all times, what you are doing and could raise alot of questions. If i am understanding what you are asking correctly it would be a sensor with some type of GPS built in. Am I corret on that?


yes but the gps wont turn on unless activated by a shock to the body, or the whole, in pursuit thing. this is like the red button, but if an officer is rendered unconcious, or even shot, they cant push the red button, the vest then senses the forces applied at radios for help automaticlly. and if your in a struggle it would pick up on the forces applied and send a message to dispatch giving the type of incedent the officers involved in. the dispatcher will then radio the officer, and if they get no reply then they make sure to bump the fills up to code 3, and have medics on standby. thanks for the comment


Please don't take it the wrong way. Hey I am all for Officer Safety!! Let me be the first to say it is a great idea!! You have Officers that work in the middle of no where and thier nearist back up could be 50 miles away. Troopers for example. I think it is a great idea if you can find someone to perfect it and of course the wonderful thing called cost. What department will pay a high cost for a vest. It is hard enough now to have them pay for a regular vest. Some departments make you supply your own if you want one. How do you handle that?? Wish I had the answer...

E196_1

60 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

jdp215 said:


hondarider said:



jdp215 said:


It could be a good idea, But I also know on Motorolla Radio's you already have a panic button that if pressed automatically notifies dispatch of your emergency. it gives the radio number and who it assigned too. You put something like that in a vest, you are giving the deaprtment control, they will know where you are at all times, what you are doing and could raise alot of questions. If i am understanding what you are asking correctly it would be a sensor with some type of GPS built in. Am I corret on that?


yes but the gps wont turn on unless activated by a shock to the body, or the whole, in pursuit thing. this is like the red button, but if an officer is rendered unconcious, or even shot, they cant push the red button, the vest then senses the forces applied at radios for help automaticlly. and if your in a struggle it would pick up on the forces applied and send a message to dispatch giving the type of incedent the officers involved in. the dispatcher will then radio the officer, and if they get no reply then they make sure to bump the fills up to code 3, and have medics on standby. thanks for the comment



Please don't take it the wrong way. Hey I am all for Officer Safety!! Let me be the first to say it is a great idea!! You have Officers that work in the middle of no where and thier nearist back up could be 50 miles away. Troopers for example. I think it is a great idea if you can find someone to perfect it and of course the wonderful thing called cost. What department will pay a high cost for a vest. It is hard enough now to have them pay for a regular vest. Some departments make you supply your own if you want one. How do you handle that?? Wish I had the answer...


if this idea becomes more than an idea, then hopefully it is just something you slide into a regular vest and have some simple software upgrades., and i would be looking to use cost effective materials, that work efficiently. im not rich myself. can you say americas next great inventor, haha

15437_1266403054653_1067074389_873402_825427_n_max50

29 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

hondarider said:


fireems31 said:


the fire service has a PASS device, Personal Alert Safety System, see how they work and yo might find some stuff you can use.


thank you very much for the tip, where could i find one?


http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=PASS+device

Cleve_max50

26 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

kevin812 said:

Cant see where this would help if you were shot in the face like the officer you mentioned above.

i like your idea, but at the same time it raises some issues.

Vt_max50

136 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

I agree with jdp215. I do think it's a great idea, I wish you luck developing this product. I know it may be a long shot, but have you thought about the TV show American Inventor?

As a resident and future LEO in Vermont, most communities in this state have one officer on duty for the whole town at a time. A shooting in a town with only one officer on duty, may take hours for someone to realize. You can never rule out shootings as something that could happen. Tragedies happen at any time and can not be predicted. I think something like your idea if it was designed as well as you dream it to be, would be a great product.

Good luck!