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hello. i am a MP on Fort Carson and was just wondering if you guys feel that we are just as much a cop as you. i am on SRT, i work the road and two weeks out of the mounth i am doing bike patrol so to me i do feel as though i am a real cop but do not feel like i get treated like one.

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i say yes - you good through the same training as we do exception for state laws - i would much rather piss off a local boy than a mp anyday - but we deal with more of the good bad and ugly then you do - but you are still a brother in "blue" camoed in digital desert

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I say yes you are a cop just as we do. I trained side by side with the mud puppies in basic at Ft. McClellan Alabama. As we enforce civilain law you all enforce that and the UCMJ. I say you are my brother even though you are a mud puppy. God Bless The Best military service in the world the U.S. Army


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Yes, MP's are the authority for military bases. You guys go through the same training that we go through but the laws that you enforce are on Government property and we primarily enforce local/state laws but we are all the same.

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If it looks like a cop, walks like a cop, and sounds like a cop, well, its a cop!

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well i am glad to hear that a lot of you feel the same way i do about it but just to let you know it is not only UCMJ that we enforce we also enforce the state laws of Colorado

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Absolutely, a cop, is a cop, is a cop. Don't care if your pants are blue or camo. When I was in the Marines a guy ran from san diego pd and crashed the gate on camp pendleton. That was the worst mistake he made for the short duration of the rest of his life. PD couldn't continue the pursuit when he crossed onto the base but the MP's lit him up bigtime. HOORAH!!!


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I'm glad to see us backed by our fellow brothers and sisters in blue. Aside from our DA counterparts, everyone around seems to support us from Colorado State Patrol to Colorado Springs PD. I see it as, we are all doing teh same job in our own respective "jurisdictions" or statutes and codes. I think devildog911 and DetSgtDarryl summed it up well. Thanks guys and good job JT for bringin this up!! Stay safe guys!!!

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Yes. I think they are, but I am biased as I was one from 85-90. :-)


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Yes they are cops, just different. You have the duty of enforcing the law on military reservations and have actually more authority under the UCMJ than Civilian cops do. I was once assigned to the Armed Forces Police for temp duty and with those guys we had a tremendous amount of power. We had authority over any and all military people on or off base. If the local PD had a problem but the subject really was not breaking any civilian laws they knew they could call us and we could and would snatch the person under the UCMJ. We patrolled the street off base and had a great rapport with the local cops, or at least I did. The head of the detachment did not like the locals and did not want us to mingle with them but screw him, they were my brothers even back then. LOL

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Yes, MP's are cops. I too am also biased, because I was a MP in the US Army from 1995-2000.


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Yes I would also say that you are considered to be an officer. My neighbor is MP k9 and I give him the same respect as I would any other officer.


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Most of us sprung from some sort of military branch or another, so yeah I do too. When I was in the service, I couldn't stand you guys, since lots of the ones that I ran into were power monkeys. I briefly was assigned to the 5035TH MP Garrison unit at Ft. Bliss after 9/11 when I was recalled. I guess that was close enough because I was Infantry and I was lost on an Air Defense Installation.

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I have some pretty good bruises early in my career from some MP'S I would say they no how to use a stick.

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as a former 95 BRAVO, i say hell yeah MPs are cops too. we all are brothers in arms. HOO-RAH!!!!

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Well you know my reply... I am a military cop, SF, stationed in the desert for anoher month, then I come home to the States. I will be stationed at Tinker AFB, OK. Home is Tennessee. Hell yeah, at Tinker we have a very good rapport with local PD as we call them when we have civilians being detained and they call us when they have ours. We also train with them sometimes. Even though our regs are different, we tend to understand and respect our boys in blue, or cami's. HUA!!!

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Speaking as a retired MP I can say that they are real cops, they just have a different jurisdiction and enforce federal statutes, as well as the Uniform Code of Military Justice, instead of enforcing just state statutes and municipal codes.


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I started out as a security guard, then a police officer, sheriff's deputy, bordr patrol agent and now I work for the Dept of Interior. In every job I was looking for the bad guy, wanted to arrest bad guy and put bad guy away. We're all on the same team Mps included.

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DetSgtDarryl said:

If it looks like a cop, walks like a cop, and sounds like a cop, well, its a cop!

TOOK THE WORDS RIGHT OUT OF MY MOUTH.

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Totally agree with everyone else. I don't know about the Army but I know my Air Force SP get handed some pretty tuff stuff. Working 12 hour shifts 4 days a week and then on their 3 days off 2 off them they are training for 8 hours or longer. They don't get paid any over time and are constantly sent to the sand box and are completely under manned. I applaud all of you MP's. You are totally respected by me as well as any other cop.

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Devildog, I remember that! I was stationed in pendleton when that happend (If I'm are thinking about the same guy, I was the 13/16 Area Guard Chief at the time) Yes, he go lit up alright.LOL... I'm currently an SF Member In the Air Force Reserve and we do have a pretty good rappor with My Department (Riverside County Sheriff) specially since we do some training together. We are all brothers and sisters, whether we are on the hard top or the sandbox (My turn is coming in 2008)...Hi Mellow, 12 hour shifts do suck specially when they don't pay you OVT.... that flight line gets HOT. Was Up Flipper. HUA! Good morning to everyone else and be safe.

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JoeyFive0, how are ya? Know where you're goin yet? Just think, right now I'm putting in nearly 100 hrs a week in 120-150 degree temps with no less than 80 percent humidity. At Bucca we are run by the Army. We do detainee ops. For those that don't know, it's a HUGE prison for the Iraqi's. They get treated better than we do because of the Geneva Convention rules. They start riots daily. They burn their tents and mattresses down just because they know that we have to give them new ones. We are trained as infantry. We do convoys to pick up detainee's. We sweep for IED's everyday. At home, 14 hr shifts, four on, three off, three on, four off. Training on days off. The list goes on and on. If anyone has any questions about what we do, specifically, I may not be able to answer, but I will answer what I can.

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This thread reminded me of my days working near Ft. Hood. We were told that only MPI and CID could carry their badges off base. (We would get badged on traffic stops) We were asked by the Base Commander to take any MP badges that his troops buy if they were not in those 2 divisions. This was the late 80's, has it changed?


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Greetings,

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Thanks for everyone's support and consideration on this topic.

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Flipper_831 said:

JoeyFive0, how are ya? Know where you're goin yet? Just think, right now I'm putting in nearly 100 hrs a week in 120-150 degree temps with no less than 80 percent humidity. At Bucca we are run by the Army. We do detainee ops. For those that don't know, it's a HUGE prison for the Iraqi's. They get treated better than we do because of the Geneva Convention rules. They start riots daily. They burn their tents and mattresses down just because they know that we have to give them new ones. We are trained as infantry. We do convoys to pick up detainee's. We sweep for IED's everyday. At home, 14 hr shifts, four on, three off, three on, four off. Training on days off. The list goes on and on. If anyone has any questions about what we do, specifically, I may not be able to answer, but I will answer what I can.

I heard bucca was being run by the Air Force, guess that's not the case. I know some of the guys coming in to replace you

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jakesdad said:

This thread reminded me of my days working near Ft. Hood. We were told that only MPI and CID could carry their badges off base. (We would get badged on traffic stops) We were asked by the Base Commander to take any MP badges that his troops buy if they were not in those 2 divisions. This was the late 80's, has it changed?

MPI and CID are the only ones authorized badges anymore, regular MPs don't use them now a days. The brassards even changed, theyr'e just a velcro patch now