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A friend of mine wanted me to ask a question for him. What is an Entry-Level Seperation (Erronous Enlistment) going to do to his future law enforcement career? During US Navy boot he was sent to the REU unit to be tested for anxiety disorder.During boot camp, probably because of strain on his family back home, He tested positive for anxiety disorder (not severe or anything) just anxiety disorder. Asthma was also realted but he got discharged for anxiety. Right now he is on a very low dosage of Lexapro and will be off it next year. According to his doctor his anxiety is not bad enough to warrant strong dosage or permanent use of the drug. Also, if he takes a psych test of his own free will ,with his own money before applying to a department and the test proves he can work safely and effectively with his supposed anxiety disorder, will that help his chances of getting into the department? Is his career over before it began? He has done numerous activities with police departments, ride-alongs, an internship, and Police Explorers, with accolades from the commanding officers and officers he worked with. Anything you can offer on these questions,advice or so on,is greatly appreciated. Thankyou!

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Have your friend register and fill out a profile. Then he can ask us himself.


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Any helpful advice?

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We like to speak person to person. You may not get many responces to a friend of mine or somebody I know questions. It is too easy not to get the whole story or our comments to be miss quoted to the someone else.


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He rather remain anonymous. He made that very clear. So any advice will help and if not then thanks anyway.

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If he was unable to complete Navy boot camp, he would most likely fail the police academy.

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I agree with Sheepdog 267 on this, the academy is longer and just as intense.


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I DO NOT mean to disrespect the officers that have posted on here - but I believe LadyB's friend will be able to do just fine. One of my good friends is a police officer in WI, and guess what, a few years ago he was in a similar circumstance. He was discharged from the Army for, you guessed it, anxiety disorder, and right now he is doing just fine as an officer. According to him, when he applied, they told him "as long as you pass the academy, our psych tests, etc. there's nothing holding you back." So I think LadyB's friend will be able to do what he has always wanted to do, as long as he can do those things. I believe, just cause my friend went through it, that just because it didn't make it in the military doesn't mean you can make it as an officer....

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JIMROC said:

Have your friend register and fill out a profile. Then he can ask us himself.

yeah what he said...that sounds good

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I would say he will have a problem getting a LEO job.


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Sheepdog267 said:

If he was unable to complete Navy boot camp, he would most likely fail the police academy.

I agree.....if the friend of the friend of a friend can't pass boot camp, then he surely won't be able to do this JOB. Bootcamp is nothing compared to the JOB.

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lonewolfWPD said:

I DO NOT mean to disrespect the officers that have posted on here - but I believe LadyB's friend will be able to do just fine. One of my good friends is a police officer in WI, and guess what, a few years ago he was in a similar circumstance. He was discharged from the Army for, you guessed it, anxiety disorder, and right now he is doing just fine as an officer. According to him, when he applied, they told him "as long as you pass the academy, our psych tests, etc. there's nothing holding you back." So I think LadyB's friend will be able to do what he has always wanted to do, as long as he can do those things. I believe, just cause my friend went through it, that just because it didn't make it in the military doesn't mean you can make it as an officer....

Disagreement is not disrespect. However, most of the officers who have posted their sought-after opinions have been on the job longer than you have been alive. Think about it!

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Sheepdog267 said:


lonewolfWPD said:


I DO NOT mean to disrespect the officers that have posted on here - but I believe LadyB's friend will be able to do just fine. One of my good friends is a police officer in WI, and guess what, a few years ago he was in a similar circumstance. He was discharged from the Army for, you guessed it, anxiety disorder, and right now he is doing just fine as an officer. According to him, when he applied, they told him "as long as you pass the academy, our psych tests, etc. there's nothing holding you back." So I think LadyB's friend will be able to do what he has always wanted to do, as long as he can do those things. I believe, just cause my friend went through it, that just because it didn't make it in the military doesn't mean you can make it as an officer....


Disagreement is not disrespect. However, most of the officers who have posted their sought-after opinions have been on the job longer than you have been alive. Think about it!


You are right Sheepdog - I apologize, the officers are much more seasoned than me, I am just a law enforcement student, I just wanted to give LadyB's friend a little hope - that she could relay that to him. I apologize that I put my info forward in a way that made it sound like I knew better -- I don't --- just what my officer friend did. I'll make sure I choose my words more carefully in the future.

Have a good rest of the weeks sir.

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lonewolfWPD said:


Sheepdog267 said:



lonewolfWPD said:


I DO NOT mean to disrespect the officers that have posted on here - but I believe LadyB's friend will be able to do just fine. One of my good friends is a police officer in WI, and guess what, a few years ago he was in a similar circumstance. He was discharged from the Army for, you guessed it, anxiety disorder, and right now he is doing just fine as an officer. According to him, when he applied, they told him "as long as you pass the academy, our psych tests, etc. there's nothing holding you back." So I think LadyB's friend will be able to do what he has always wanted to do, as long as he can do those things. I believe, just cause my friend went through it, that just because it didn't make it in the military doesn't mean you can make it as an officer....


Disagreement is not disrespect. However, most of the officers who have posted their sought-after opinions have been on the job longer than you have been alive. Think about it!



You are right Sheepdog - I apologize, the officers are much more seasoned than me, I am just a law enforcement student, I just wanted to give LadyB's friend a little hope - that she could relay that to him. I apologize that I put my info forward in a way that made it sound like I knew better -- I don't --- just what my officer friend did. I'll make sure I choose my words more carefully in the future.

Have a good rest of the weeks sir.


wow....i wonder who the "friend" is


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seems to me that any dept that hired someone like that would have a huge liability problem. i wouldn't hire him...would you? think about it and use a little common sense!

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I can say that your "friend" has very little chance in the realm of federal law enforcement. Anxiety disorders do not bode well for high stress situations.


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Get the friend to do auxillary first and make sure "he" can handle that. I wouldnt want my partner having an anxiety problem. I am no doctor but I would think anxiety can come back real quick. Especially in a law enfocement job. Hasnt anybody seen how high the percentage is now with LEO's going suicidal because of stress? Being a LEO is the most stressful job ever, in my eyes!! So, I don't think it would be a good job for the "friend"!!!


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I will tell him. I thought about joining the army once,but changed my mind and Im not really a "water gal" so Navy woould be out for me :] thanks guys for the advice!

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LadyBeasley said:

A friend of mine wanted me to ask a question for him. What is an Entry-Level Seperation (Erronous Enlistment) going to do to his future law enforcement career? During US Navy boot he was sent to the REU unit to be tested for anxiety disorder.During boot camp, probably because of strain on his family back home, He tested positive for anxiety disorder (not severe or anything) just anxiety disorder. Asthma was also realted but he got discharged for anxiety. Right now he is on a very low dosage of Lexapro and will be off it next year. According to his doctor his anxiety is not bad enough to warrant strong dosage or permanent use of the drug. Also, if he takes a psych test of his own free will ,with his own money before applying to a department and the test proves he can work safely and effectively with his supposed anxiety disorder, will that help his chances of getting into the department? Is his career over before it began? He has done numerous activities with police departments, ride-alongs, an internship, and Police Explorers, with accolades from the commanding officers and officers he worked with. Anything you can offer on these questions,advice or so on,is greatly appreciated. Thankyou!

He may have challenges with the POST commission or the certifying body for police officers in the state that he intends to apply for a job. In most states any discharge other than "honorable" must get a waiver from the state to work in law enforcement.

He may consider checking with them as well.

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What is your friends RE COde on his dd214? MOst agencies will look at that rather than the type of discharge.

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I agree with those who are stating the fact that if your friend had trouble in boot he will have similar trouble in the academy. It's the same way for fire departments and EMS services. These are extremely high stress jobs which can place people in even higher stress situations at times. I have worked with and also have friends who suffer from varying degrees of anxiety disorder. Some can function well, others find it difficult. What happens to your friend will depend on the department he applies to. They are going to be the final say so. If they belive that he can be capable of performing the duties and functions of a police officer, then he could have a good chance. My best advice for your friend is to find someone in the department he is interested in joining who could advise him on this matter and talk to them.


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Sheepdog267 said:

If he was unable to complete Navy boot camp, he would most likely fail the police academy.

Basic training is not that hard today. I went through Army basic traning 13 years ago and had a blast. Its all in the attitude. I feel anyway. The only branch that has actual boot camp is the Marines. At least that was what I was told. He should register and ask questions himself though because it is the right thing to do.

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Thanks guys :]