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Officers shoot dogs in front of Pennsylvania high school

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mz66

over 1 year ago

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Source: NBCNews


January 30, 2013


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    Jonas

    over 1 year ago

    42828 Comments

    Bump LonnaNJ.

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    mz66

    over 1 year ago

    3896 Comments

    Animal control wasn't involved. Apparently there is only one animal control officer for that city and they were otherwise engaged. But yes, I get your drift--if only the officers had waited for the ACO it would have been a much different story.

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    LanaNJ

    over 1 year ago

    6956 Comments

    Not sure where to even start on this one but to say this is VERY bad P.R. for LE.

    Although I agree to the tactical fail here Local140 mentions, I know where the real outrage lies even the culprit seems to be irresponsible dog ownership.

    In my experience owning, training, rehoming and shelter volunteering, I know at times getting a dog owner to be responsible is like pulling teeth.The article mentions one dog had no collar, other has leash with no owner attached to it. I see epic fails that I know are eventually going to acquire POLICE involvement.

    I don't have the answers on how LE should react to these calls, but I know how dogs act, think and operate-especially the breed identified (and I use that word loosely) here.

    The Pit Bull types commonly suffer from Alpha Male Syndrome and Irresponsible ownership. They don't tire easily like some breeds and for the most part are inherently submissive as well as friendly towards humans and most strangers. Ironically, dog fighters with bad intentions know the secrets of having a dog that's not going attack them, their family or their crowd of participants, while you have loving owners with good intentions that simply don't get how to have a well balanced family pet that's not going to attack another dog/cat?.

    Notice the dogs weren't that loud, even though they were engaged in the fight? This would be a sign to me that one or both dogs are totally fixated on each other and are not going to let go until the other one is in complete submission, not getting back up, or dead beyond a reasonable doubt. The arriving officers may actually have a larger window of time then they may know. It's highly unlikely a dog is going to disengage mid-fight, turn their attention to something totally different and then just decide to start lunging and chasing random people. There's a BIG difference between human aggression and dog aggression. Humans are probably the furthest thing on a dogs mind of two dogs fighting, and some dogs may even think their protecting a human from the dog their fighting. Some dogs it's as simple as a territorial dispute.

    Again, other then educating dog owners, I have no concrete answers on the what to do in these situations. I do have a suggestion that might help avoid a potential lawsuit and future bad PR, but I'll leave this up to an Officers discretion.
    Utilize and trust Animal Control Officers to do there job when it's not %100 a Police matter. ACO's separate dueling dogs for a living without panic, and without having to live up to a higher standard.

    If there's an immediate need to shoot an animal in the cab of someone's truck infront of a HS with a large crowd watching, let the ACO be the one to delegate and sign off on that BEFORE the story hits the nightly News, Youtube, Facebook and every other social media site where dog tales abound..

    Wouldn't this make A much better title: "Officers shoot dogs in front of Pennsylvania high school FOLLOWING THE REQUEST OF AN ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER....."?

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    local140

    over 1 year ago

    98 Comments

    And as cops we are always the first to complain when someone passes new rules for us to follow. We are our own worst enemies. From the distance the officers were from the car, what was the backstop for any bullet that missed? We do it to ourselves all the time but we just won't police our own actions.

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    darsavmo

    over 1 year ago

    11356 Comments

    2 sides to every story, but if the article is accurate some serious explaining needs to happen, especially why you are shooting inside the bed of the p/u...

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    mz66

    over 1 year ago

    3896 Comments

    Doesn't look good, but I wasn't there.

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