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8.04.2012, 03:10 AM Harlem teen says she was cuffed, held in MetroCard flap
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Anonymous
10 months ago
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Source: Nydailynews
August 07, 2012
darsavmo
9 months ago
10766 Comments
Sounds and probably was bad, but as 36TR stated, there are 2 sides to every story...
MarlyB
9 months ago
4230 Comments
Whoops! Looks like somebody owes an explanation now!
This whole thing looks wonky from the git go.
I'm guessing the young lady lipped off AND the officers reacted too over-zealously.
Anonymous
9 months ago
My first question, is this an arrestable offense or is it punishable by a fine? Second question, is this something that would require the time and resources to be expended! Third question, is WHY! It's not about questioning another LEO, but there are some who need to be reminded of who we serve!
I have seen middle school children with full beards so to look at a child and automatically presume that they are older than they say they are is not very good. The NYPD has other resources such as thier police officers assigned to schools to check the schools database to verify the identity of a student or employee. Based on the face value of this article which it states has enougn merit to be investigated by NYPD things could have been handled a ellava lot differently, then there would be no need for lawsuits and IA investigations.
Everything is not about money and lawsuits, many times it is about treating people with dignity and respect!. Much like, we as LEO's want to be treated!
mz66
9 months ago
3462 Comments
ajs, I have no doubt that officers were following someone's orders to be on the lookout for possible violations and I am not questioning the officers' actions as they were doing their jobs. However, determining violations by observing apparent age is an iffy practice, as was proven here. My guess is that people think fraud is a problem and since they provide the light on the turnstile to alert transit workers (and apparently police), I guess they think they have to try.
ajsdaddyCCSO
9 months ago
2244 Comments
We do not have mass transit in our little corner of the world therefore I would have no knowledge of how prevalent or not this type of abuse is. Must be a bit of a problem for officer's to have reacted like that. I don't know, I wasn't there and would certainly not question my fellow brothers in blue until all the facts come out.
mz66
9 months ago
3462 Comments
No doubt about that, Nick--but, how exactly is that determined? If the city is so concerned about fraudulent use of the student MetroCard then they should put photos on those. Too expensive? If it is, then fraud isn't that bad a problem.
BigNTS
10 months ago
6126 Comments
It's not but fraudulent use of a Metro-card can be.
mz66
10 months ago
3462 Comments
I wasn't aware that not carrying valid ID was a crime or even indicative that you might be dangerous.
"Your papers, fraulein?"
BigNTS
10 months ago
6126 Comments
Playing devil's advocate here...She had no ID. Are the cops supposed to just release her without following through on obtaining a valid ID? Seems to me they were following good police practice and were procedurely required to handcuff her. She went to the hospital for swelling of the wrists? Sounds like she was trying to bolster her legal claim against the city (you know there's gonna be a lawsuit).
36TR
10 months ago
7252 Comments
Doesn't sound good, however we only hear one side of the story.
Jonas
10 months ago
38356 Comments
Ya for sure she looks like a real train ticket thief to me. NOT!!!