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Source: POLICE ONE/ ABC NEWS
July 18, 2012
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+1, Robocop33. Never point a weapon at anyone or anything you don't intend to destroy. I've seen both police officers and private citizens placing their finger on the trigger and pointing a weapon at someone else just to make a point. People who do that should have their badge pulled and a short stay in jail to think about what they did. There are people out there who should not be entrusted with firearms, heavy machinery, or cars.
Its just a sad situation for all involved
This is a very tragic case of the rights of law enforcement and the rights of a homeowner. As a police officer, I do think that the officers involved should have surrounded the building, making sure that they had adequate resources in place and applied for a no-knock warrant. Employing speed, the element of surprise, and violence of action would have not given the homeowner time to arm himself. Unless he slept with a firearm in his lap. Seeing that the officers chose to knock on the door, I feel that they opened themselves up to asnwering the question of, "Who is it?" and that they should have announced their presence and badge of office.
On the flip side as a homeowner. I always answer my door with a firearm in my hand usually concealed behind the door or behind my back. The time of the police officers knocking on someone's door at 0130 is enough to properly anticipate the homeowner being armed, especially in the state of Florida or anywhere else in the the U.S. a homeowner is allowed to have a firearm within his or her residence or on their person. The subject killed had a right to arm himself before answering his door. The police have a resonable expectation to confirm and to announce badge of office. I do understand that time may have been an issue but, I think moving too fast have cost the homeowner his life and the police officer, his or her department a lot of grief. This is a very tragic event and the repurcussions of this event while definitely be felt throughout the state of Florida and maybe throughout the country.
I agree. Swinging the door open with the gun leveled at "whoever" isn't very bright. The way Robo would handle it seems like the sensible thing.
I was not there but it seems like a justified shooting to me and I feel very badly for the Deputies ands for the family of the guy who pointed a weapon at the deputy's and got killed for it.
I Always answer my door with my weapon in hand, usually placed behind my back or where the person at the door cannot see it. I DO NOT point it at him unless he has a firearm pointed at me. The "Who's there" question should be answered by "Police" and if they are in uniform I will be able to see them. In plain clothes they need to show me ID. Then they get let in. If not I call the police Department and inform them have someone trying to gain entry and to hurry and send Uniformed Officers as I am armed and ready to defend my home. As for the 'no-knock', well they got me as I do not sit around with my firearm at my side and I am sure I will hear the word "POLICE" before I can get to my firearm. Bottom line, NEVER POINT A GUN AT A COP!
i agree with revccbeasley.
We now have an Ohio version to deal with
Police officer killed victim of break-in
Let give prayer to the family for their loss. It was an unfortunate situation for both victim and leo. Reactions on both side were taken for protection. Yes, better intel was needed, but time was a major factor. Lets pray for both, because a shooting is one thing to deal with, a loss of life is another.
BUMP SkoolCop, my thoughts exactly. There are ways not to become a victim and this suspect put himself in that position failing to act on availible options.
God Bless the Deputies, glad you arre safe.......do not dwell on this....Andrew Scott made the choice, not you!! You went home safe and did as you were trained. With the info availible here I say GOOD SHOOT!!!
Someone knocks loudly on my door at 1:30 AM without identifying themselves CLEARLY as police officers, especially in a not so well to do neighborhood, you can bet I'd be armed. As is the right of ANY homeowner who feels threatened and wanting to protect themselves and their loved ones. Those deputies messed up severely and resulted in an innocent man getting shot. If police want no knock warrants, they better at least get the address right and have some good judgment. There is definitely a case here of negligence by those deputies.
Pointing a gun has deadly consequences regardless of your agenda or intentions.
He (Andrew Scott) may have been the wrong suspect for the crime initially being investigated but he became an INSTANT SUSPECT AND A DEADLY THREAT in a new crime the second he came to the door armed and pointing the gun at the deputies. I have answered the door armed, but not pointing the firearm at anyone....... That said, I ALWAYS attempt to find out who is on the other side of the door before I open it. The suspect, Andrew Scott, could have (and should have) asked who was at the door. The question would have received the appropriate response, "SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT" or "POLICE DEPARTMENT.... OPEN THE DOOR." If not sure that it was really the police or sheriff's department, he could have called the department to confirm at which time he would have been instructed to secure the weapon and open the door. Scott did not do any of this and instead opened his door with the weapon in hand and pointing it at the deputies. Scott made the choice(s)........ The deputies merely responded to the choice(s) Scott made.
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