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N.J. Supreme Court: Cop violated Monmouth student's privacy by seizing drugs during noise complaint

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BigNTS

about 1 year ago

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Source: www.nj.com


May 01, 2012


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    copper380

    about 1 year ago

    2026 Comments

    Plain view doctrin applies.

    For the plain view doctrine to apply for discoveries, the three-prong Horton test requires:

    1.the officer to be lawfully present at the place where the evidence can be plainly viewed,
    2.the officer to have a lawful right of access to the object, and
    3.the incriminating character of the object to be “immediately apparent.”

    The officers were there on a call, inviited into the residence, no one objected to them checking the house for the resident, they looked into an open door to a room that was not secure and coule see the cds.....pretty simple to me!!!

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    copper380

    about 1 year ago

    2026 Comments

    Unfortunately I feel the judge made a mistake, I read the artical and do not agree with the defense arguement. The officers were doing the right thing and the officers did not do "full-scale search", they were looking for a person and came across a crime. A cursory search is NOT a full scale search, if the judges would allow me I would be glad to do a cursory search and a full scale search of their houses to demonstrate the difference. I agree that a warrant is needed for a full scale search, have you ever seen a full scale search? drawers emptied, beds lifted, closets emptied, things taken apart, furnature moved....etc.... a cursory search is walking into open areas and looking for a human, minimum intrusion, no drawers, furnature moved etc., if it is not a place that a human would NORMALLY be then it is not checked. Bottom line, they were looking for a person and spotted cds in plain view. GOOD BUST!!

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    mz66

    about 1 year ago

    3462 Comments

    The judge disagreed, copper380. Here's an excerpt (from the above) citing the lower court's opinion. I also included a quote from the defense counsel that I cannot find fault with.

    "The objective of noise abatement could have been achieved well short of the full-scale search engaged in by the officers in this matter," Judge Anthony Parrillo of the appellate panel wrote at the time of the ruling on June 29.

    The Supreme Court, which heard oral arguments on March 27, did not write a full opinion today, but relied on that of the lower court.

    The assistant deputy public defender, Frank Pugliese, said, "This case reaffirms our long-held belief that the home, whether occupied by college age young people or not, is a special place of privacy and that exceptions to the warrant requirement will continue to be narrowly applied to places of residence."

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    copper380

    about 1 year ago

    2026 Comments

    conducting a cursory search for a resident, looking into a open door and seeing cds and paraphernalia does not constitute a search. Their intent was not to search for drugs but discovered them in plain view. If looking into drawers and such I would understand their stance on the illegal search ......but COME ON!!! So let me get this right, If I am invited into a house and can not find the resident, i go upstairs and see a person raping a women in a room with an open door the rapist would go free if I did not leave and get a warrant first? plain view is plain view wether it is a crime of violence or drugs. these officers did nothing unreasonable, they did not storm the house or force their way in......they were invited in. I am sure we have all been at a large out of control party or two, and I am sure the occupants of the dwelling have always been bend over backwards with assistance in identifying the residents so we have never had to go look for them (especially after the second call there where one of the people promised to keep it down the first time you were there!). But let's say the occupants were not cooperative in identifying the residents, I must now stop and get a warrant? Now back to the off the wall comment.....if a rape was taking place or a young person dies as a result of cds use and it was later discovered the police had been there....inside the house......and did not look for the residents which could have resulted in the saving of the life or the stopping of a rape.......then the officer would be in the spotlight for not doing a thorough job. I would rather lose dope and have a case tossed than finding out I could have prevented a major crime or saved a life but did not because I did not do a complete job when on the scene in the first place.

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    DALLASCRANE

    about 1 year ago

    19386 Comments

    Have a house party, sell illegal drugs, pay the rent with the proceeds. No surprise here......

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    Jonas

    about 1 year ago

    38368 Comments

    Oh I get it now. Noise complaints legalize drugs in NJ!

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    gcoleman

    about 1 year ago

    1864 Comments

    Clearing party house and nobody wants to step up as living there. DAH not surprise. Normal to clear people out id arrest or cite as u go trying to find owner or renter goin to all levels. On the surface seemed ok to me >Plain View.

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    mz66

    about 1 year ago

    3462 Comments

    "Slippery slope" may be a fallacy in other arguments, but in the legal realm there's an equivalent that is a real threat: the legal precedent. While it may not have served the spirit of "justice" in this particular case, the judge's ruling does mean that a legal precedent isn't created for applying the plain sight rule while looking for the owner to discuss a noise complaint.

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    ajsdaddyBPD

    about 1 year ago

    2252 Comments

    Oh and one other thing. To the parents of this addict, aren't you proud?

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    ajsdaddyBPD

    about 1 year ago

    2252 Comments

    Funny how it is OK for everyone else to know the guy is a pill peddler yet when LE gets involved somehow now his rights have been trampled. The same people that are cheering this decision are the same ones aghast at how prescription pills have become such a major problem. They are also the same ones who will curse LE when their precious little Johnny or Joanie dies from an OD of something they injected, snorted, or smoked without knowing exactly what it was. People are so stupid. So, can't find the tenants and search the residence to look for them because people are too scared to point the finger, find prescription meds packaged for resale and distribution IN PLAIN VIEW and we are the violators? Parallel universe of stupidity.

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    Robocop33

    about 1 year ago

    14354 Comments

    Hummm, at first it sounds like a good ruling as you cannot search the house because of a noise complaint but they were not searching per se, they were looking for the owner so I don't know.

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