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Source: THE INTEL HUB
January 22, 2012
Let's move the discussion here, gentlemen (after you read the analysis there).
Don't be silly, Frank--this thing doesn't have legs. It isn't the "only" way because it isn't a way at all--it will accomplish nothing for the public good. In fact, I was rather surprised to learn that this judge is an appointee. In any event, this mainly will just serve up publicity for celebrity liar *cough* I mean lawyer Orly Taitz, who is representing several of the people around the country that are making "birther" challenges in court. As we get closer to November it will become clearer (appeals and dismissals, maybe a counter-suit for nuisance litigation).
ilegworldchamp, I AGREE WITH YOU ENTIRELY! Even the very idea of a sitting President being required to appear in a State court for this type of question, or any reason short or murder for that matter, should NOT occur. Again, the crisis it would cause would be beyond belief and nobody should open that can of worms, period.
All that said the question IS interesting but should not be used to change anything in the past. Back then, and I am 62, I obtained my SSAN when I was 10 to 12 yrs old or something like that because I went to work for my uncle around 1960. I believe it is still true that your SSAN # still carries the # of the State where you apply for it. Mine is 021, My wife is 251 which is SC as are my two sons, My step sons are 528 or something like that because they got their SSAN in Fl. All the kids were born in SC. I had heard Obamas was one that is from Ct but this investigator said it was issued to Ma so I wonder if it was one that could be issued to people of both States but one that is issued by an Office that splits the line between the states, I don't know. Just telling you what was said in court in sworn testimony. To me this is just interesting and should not matter legally. Like you I believe it should be determined in the ballot box ONLY. What is done is done.
AFTER the election and hopefully when Obama is defeated maybe then we can investigate and demand his school records and track his history to really see how he came to power. Even then, we should not go back and remove everything he did or pick and choose what to eliminate, just let it go and go on from there and do the peoples bidding as long as it is allowed through the US Constitution.
Robo the first three digits of the SS# are issued from the State of Connecticut according to the Social Security Issuance form I have. Back in those days the SS# was issued to you after you applied for it because you were seeking employment and needed it for tax purposes. The issuance is not a place of birth back then but rather a place to start working. "NOBODY CAN DO ANYTHING AT THIS POINT BECAUSE OF THE CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS IT WOULD CAUSE IN REMOVING (NOT ONLY HIM BUT THE ENTIRE TICKET AND EVERYTHING THAT CAME AFTER TO INCLUDE ANY SIGNINGS)" . The ability to stop Obama through the Court system is the only way to keep him off the ballot for the next election because of the initial SNAFU.
All-in-all it's a nightmare no matter which way you look at it.
Yawn!!!!! Let it go!
Read the transcript ilegworld, the SSN is actually issued in ma, the State next door and Kennedy's home state. This was in 1977 at which time Obama supposedly resided in Ha. Also that time period says Obama also was living in Indonesia. All of these records seem to be very confusing. As I said, read what they are doing and what has come out in court and then try and come to a conclusion. Just too confusing to me. As I said, I think the whole matter needs to be dropped from any legal opinion that Obama is illegal or ineligible as that would result in chaos, but it is darn interesting and makes me wonder at the very least even if I liked his policies, which I do not.
If not for the attention given Obama by Senator Ted Kennedy and the "ULTRA LIBERAL LEFT WING" pushing him down everyones throat at the last Presidential Election Cycle , Obama would be just another Chicago Politician with the "CORRUPT MILL STONE AROUND HIS NECK LIKE MANY OTHER CROOKED CHICAGO POLITICIANS THAT GO BACK GENERATIONS". Has anyone ever paid any attention to his "SELECTION OF PEOPLE HE SURROUNDS HIM SELF WITH , CRIMINALS AND ANARCHISTS ?" You can thank Ted Kennedy for this LEFT WING SOCIALIST POWER GRAB. Nobody but Ted Kennedy had the Power and Prestige along with Political Clout to pull this off. The Kennedy Machine runs deep with the Whiz Kids from the 60's till now doing all the dirty work and ground breaking ( not to mention a few arms and legs along the way getting broken) . Just for informational usage , the "ROOKIE REGISTRY OFFICER THAT INVESTIGATED TED KENNEDY'S ACCIDENT ON THE CAPE (OVER THE OBJECTION OF THE POLICE CHIEF WHO RESIGNED BECAUSE OF THE OUTCOME) WAS WITHIN FIVE YEARS A DEPUTY CHIEF WITH THE REGISTRY , REAL BRIGHT BOY"??????????????
Birth Certificate Issue Aside , "WHY DOE'S OBAMA HAVE A FRAUDULENT SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER THAT WAS ISSUED TO SOMEONE ELSE IN CONNECTICUT , AND WHY HAS HE SPENT SO MUCH MONEY TO COVER ALL OF HIS PAPERWORK LIKE SCHOOL TRANSCRIPTS AND THE LIKE"? As working Police Officers you are suppose to UTILIZE YOUR COMMON SENSE in all matters you incur , why is this any different ? If this was some punk purp you just picked up for any reason and found his Social Security Number and his records contradictory like President Obamas , would you not investigate further ? If not your stealing your pay check for not doing due diligence to your Office as a LEO !
1good1bad1ugly, quite frankly it think it should be a moot point now that he has been sworn into office. Something like this should have been brought up before he was placed on the ballot the very first time. Now it would end up being a nightmare to make the legal determination that Obama was not eligible. If that were done then EVERYTHING that Obama did, appointed, signed into law, etc as well as all the expenses incurred while in Office would be null and void and expenses would have to be repaid. It would most certainly be a complete nightmare. It over and done with IMHO. I do not want him re-elected but I do not want it to be an issue or ruled on now. Let it go would be my best advice. Let's used the ballot box to get rid of this cancer.
Me either, Robo--I meant this is likely worth something politically at the local level.
I actually do not see this changing the election very much if at all. Whoever runs against Obama is very probably going to win the State of Georgic anyway. It IS very interesting read no matter what.
Just checking with Snopes to find out if this a true and accurate account of this hearing. You know how rumors can spread. No offense. And I'm not an Obama fan trying to discount if there was, or wasn't a hearing and the testimony therein, in fact, being in the 1% that I am, the sooner November gets here, and he is hopefully voted out of office, the better. I've been looking for a job in security for 9 months now and have had no luck. I have an EXCELLENT resume. 4 years in LE and 8 years in Security. I've made looking for a full-time job a full-time job. If Obama's citizenship to be President is in question, and this article turns out to be true, then he SHOULD NOT be allowed to be a candidate for the next election. Just my opinion.
Robo--I would guess they are duty-bound to report anything that suggests a crime has been committed (e.g. a sitting President qualifying for office fraudulently). I don't know, though--it's just a guess.
Personally I think this is paradoxically a Georgia politics issue. Someone has something to gain politically by pursuing this (and/or lose by not pursuing it). In the end it will go nowhere except to raise money/clout for Georgia politicians.
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