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Source: Akron Beacon Journal
November 21, 2011
mz66 I agree with you on that, probably well known in the area. Probably not expecting the lady to react the way she did. I'm sure he'll rethink the way he does his business the next time. LOL
Charges dropped. No ax to grind. Best to carry it in a large bag not under a coat. Axing for problems.
@kymarcum: I do not think he was trying to create some kind of stir. I'm sure if he had an appropriate case to conceal it in, he would've used it. The ax is pretty sizable--that would be a pretty nonstandard box. Perhaps a trombone case?
I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt and prefer to believe he simply had no reasonable way to conceal the prop. I also presume he's well known in the community and that most people simply recognized it for what it was.
Thanks mz66 for the clarification but i did read the article. Do you honestly believe this guy didn't think he was going to create some sort of stir by walking into a bar with an ax, real or not, tucked under his trench coat?
Reminds me of that time we were in a bar in Oklahoma before sundown on Halloween night. The doorway darkened with the silhouette of a man who strode right up onto the dance floor holding a chainsaw and fired it up and started disco-ing all over the place. It was Leatherface.
The dance floor cleared in a matter of seconds. Leatherface was holding the chain saw over his head and twirling around while it roared and spit smoke out the back. Then he stopped the saw and everyone broke up when they saw the "blade and chain" was just a piece of cardboard stuck into the motor housing.
Then everyone joined him on the dance floor and he fired the chainsaw up again.
I have to say officers discretion, can he arrest....yes.....should he have, i was not there but no victim no crime. Based on the information in the story I probibly would not have arrested. I believe the accused was carrying it under his coat so he would not scare anyone but carrying it under the coat makes it a CDW. The States Attorney here says if it looks real then it is real and charge. Even so, it would be my choice to arrest or not based on the laws here. I can not look at this and say it was a bad arrest, it was the officers choice and it was a good arrest. I have a feelng that most of us that have been doing this job awhile probibly would have had a laugh, a stern warning and send on his way.
another case of "what were you thinking". swift kick in the backside, remedial retraining in common sense and be done with this. he had no intent but the caller was ligitamately concerning and rightfully so. i think iin a worst case cinerio i would have cited him but i am not aware of the laws of that state.
The city prosecutors statement was somewhat of a giveaway.I believe the charges will be dropped by him prior to pre-trial.I found in my career that prosecutors are somewhat reluctant to take on a case which isn't a slam-dunk.Can't blame them,they want to be a judge someday.
@kymarcum: Yes--two weeks BEFORE halloween the man was trying to sell a prop that he made. Read the article.
This dude knew exactly what he was doing, trying to spread a little Halloween scare. Problem was he didn't realize it would escalate like it did. An ax can be a deadly weapon, if it looks real enough I'm going to treat it as such. Think about all the times a toy gun was mistaken for a real one.
I think with good mediation skills, that could of been avoided as far as the arrest. Now sure, the "Suspect" if you will, should receive a pep talk about maybe growing some sense? But none the less, I wouldn't agree with it warranting an arrest.
Examples of bad news reporting notwithstanding, the news reports are all you have to go on and yes, for the most part you can really say, "if you read the story..." You have to judge facts in a story based on context.
This story seems to be written completely and concisely without any confusion of the facts. In every case they cited the source of the information. For example, the sources appear to be the dispatcher's notes and the officer's report. They even included information about the Ohio law regarding the charge. There may be stories that you can question the veracity of, but this certainly isn't likely to be one of them.
While I understand that this was overkill, you can't really say "If you read the story." Do you have any idea how often the news leaves out details or just gets them wrong. I had a call of a man shot in the HAND. The next day the news read "man shot in HEAD." They also stated we had a suspect when we did not and made up a suspect vehicle. Im not saying the news is lying or wrong in this case, but I take what the news reads with a grain of salt. There may have been more to this then the article reads.
...and they should return this man's property, pronto.
If you read the story, it's clear he wasn't threatening or unruly and was calmly cooperative with officers. He didn't swing it at anybody, threaten anybody with it, or any similar action. Further, he is apparently well known in the community for his Halloween creations. I was not there, though, so I do not know what the officers' reasoning was in this case...I suspect we'll never know so long as the prosecutor complies with the request to drop the charges.
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