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Bar Patron Goes After Off-Duty Cop's Gun, Get's Shot

Bar Patron Goes After Off-Duty Cop's Gun, Get's Shot

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New York Daily News via YellowBrix

July 08, 2011

BROOKLYN – An off-duty cop shot a man who allegedly grabbed another officer’s gun and opened fire Thursday during a fight over a woman outside a Brooklyn bar, authorities said.

Witnesses said the argument broke out

around 4 a.m. inside the Old Gallery bar in Kensington, and later moved outside after one of the cops inexplicably called Pablo Negron a “rabbit chinchilla.”

“People got drunk and they start fighting,” said Daria Saldiran, 25, who was with the victim in the bar celebrating a friend’s birthday. “It goes outside and then [the shooting] happened so fast.”

Negron – who pals said goes by the street name “Kurupt” – was hit in the side and the thigh and was taken to Lutheran Hospital in stable condition and is expected to live.

Sources identified the two off-duty cops as Jason Reynolds, 28, and Albert Lloyd, 37, who work in the 70th Precinct’s anti-crime unit.

Each has been on the force six years and had finished working a 6 p.m.- 2 a.m. shift before coming to the bar, police said..

A Massachusetts woman who was at the bar and on a date with 26-year-old Negron said the trouble began when Lloyd made a pass at her.

“Oh cutie, where are you from?” she quoted Lloyd as saying.

“I said, ’I’m not from here and unfortunately I am accompanied right now, so I’m not going to speak to you,’” recalled the woman, who declined to give her name.

She said Lloyd, who she didn’t know was a cop, then sent a drink over to her, which she sent back.

When he saw that she was with Negron, the woman said Lloyd uttered the unusual insult – likening the man’s hair to that of a small fuzzy creature.

The two men then almost came to blows, but the woman said she managed to smooth things over, telling Negron to “calm down, relax, leave it alone.”

But when she later went to the bathroom as the bar was getting ready to close, the fight erupted again.

Police say as the officers walked out of the bar, Reynolds was bumped by a 21-year-old pal of Negron’s named Jonathan LeDuc.

“What are you looking at?” NYPD Deputy Inspector Kim Royster quoted LeDuc as saying to Reynolds.

Royster said Reynolds then pulled out his badge.

“I don’t want any problems,” she quoted Reynolds as saying. “I’m a cop.”

“I don’t care who you are,” responded LeDuc, who then punched Reynolds so hard his earring fell out, according to Royster.

LeDuc then called to his pals for help and they began attacking Lloyd.

Negron – who lives in Cobble Hill and has a rap sheet with busts for drugs, assaults trespassing and weapons charges – put Reynolds in a headlock, Royster said.

Witness Eddy Vidal, 27, said he saw Lloyd try to pistol-whip Negron, but his gun fell to the ground in the struggle.

Royster said Negron than picked up Lloyd’s Smith & Wesson 9mm pistol and began firing at Reynolds.

She said Reynolds then pulled his gun and ordered Negron to drop the weapon, but he kept firing. Reynolds returned fire with his Glock 9mm, striking Negron twice.

In all, each weapon was fired nine times, Royster said.

“The dude picked up the gun because he was scared,” Vidal said. “He didn’t deserve to get shot.”

After hearing the fusillade, the Negron’s gal pal ran outside and found him bleeding on the ground.

“I ran to him. I tried to keep him conscious. I was slapping him, but that didn’t work. There was a big blood spot,” she said, “All he kept saying was, ‘Just talk to my mom.’”

Cops say a man named Jose Rivera ran off with Lloyd’s gun, which was later found stashed on the roof of a nearby building.

Reynolds, who works as a police union rep, had a blood alcohol content of .04 – half the legal limit – and was deemed fit for duty at the time of the shooting, Royster said.

Lloyd was also deemed fit for duty.

Negron, LeDuc and three others were arrested. Negron was charged with attempted murder and assault. A pal, Jose Rivera, 22, was also charged. Both cops were deemed fit for duty at the time of the brawl, but the NYPD is still investigating.

The NYPD said it investigating whether Reynolds and Lloyd had acted properly.

Neighbor Ray Krawiec, 39, said the bar – known to regulars as “OGs” – has long been a trouble spot.

“Every morning, when I get up for work there’s brawls going on,” he said. “They’re all spewing from that bar. That’s a horrible bar.”

Regulars said Reynolds – who they knew as “J.R.” – and Lloyd were fixtures at the bar nearly every Wednesday night, but no one knew they were cops. The bar is not on the department’s list of off-limits places.


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    wgreen

    about 3 years ago

    10 Comments

    people can do what they want ,but when i started to carry off duty bars are off limits unless it caters to law enforcement but even then i drink soda only

  • Larry_apache_dist_13_max50

    AHP3611

    about 3 years ago

    316 Comments

    Well this story sounds like a story, I wait until internal affairs completes the investigation to make a comment on the do's and don't, shitheads can still sniff out officers and put the screws to them. As far as drinking and carrying during choir practices, I would rather be cocked and ready 24/7 than dead.

    I think this is a training issue and they should have a range day to see how much you can drink and still hit the target, the ones that qualify can have a endorsement placed on their Police ID !!!!!!! LOL

  • Photo_user_blank_big

    Bnshape

    about 3 years ago

    662 Comments

    No matter what you may think about the press,
    off duty officers' drinking at a bar while armed at 4am
    and hitting on someone's girlfriend after she
    tell's you no equals poor decision!

  • John_groh_max50

    wiseass0282

    about 3 years ago

    10984 Comments

    Going to that place was a big mistake on the Officers part. Even if this turns out to be a justified shoot, it's going to get ugly.

  • Pug_max600_max50

    DALLASCRANE

    about 3 years ago

    19382 Comments

    American Chinchilla Rabbit Breeders Association. So they do exist. Not much good happens after 4 AM at a bar. What a alcohol fueled mess.

  • Evil_max50

    Scurge

    about 3 years ago

    1232 Comments

    No its not illegal to be armed and intoxicated in EVERY state. Its certainly not smart in every state

  • Ba_old_glory_max50

    Jonas

    about 3 years ago

    42222 Comments

    Yes indeed folks another case of AFS here...emphasis on the Stupidity part!

  • Globe_eagle_anchor_max50

    gammyland

    about 3 years ago

    438 Comments

    based on what I can decifer in this story which was "well written".... I think 1 cop should be looking for a new job, most likely 2 depending on how drunk they were. It's illegal for ANYONE to be drunk and armed in every state I THINK.... so yeah. This wasn't a "mistake"... 2 cops who made several decisions over the evening. decision cops should know the right choices for. these guys, especially Lloyd apparently lack.

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    kaalima

    about 3 years ago

    1748 Comments

    No means No !!
    I am with someone= no
    sending her a drink with the boyfriend at the table=trouble
    having a gun+ drinking at 4 am+ fighting= even more trouble !!

  • 25-1-13-a_1__max50

    SkoolCop

    about 3 years ago

    4582 Comments

    "rabbit chinchilla" Like I said.......... A poorly written article by a so called reporter that can not even get facts or quotes straight. Off duty LEO's, all other parties concerned, news rag writer and editor......... FACE PALMS FOR EVERYONE!!!!!!!

  • Glock_max50

    deserteagle8338

    about 3 years ago

    34 Comments

    I dont know about you guys but I found this story too confusing to follow with all the names and the he said she said going on...

  • Joefriday_max50

    alexy

    about 3 years ago

    3970 Comments

    When the third sentace started with "at approximately 4AM outside a bar" I knew this story was going downhill like a olympic skier.

  • Dsc00052_max50

    LtD

    about 3 years ago

    200 Comments

    Booze and guns= no bueno

  • 2011_range_day_2-19-10_max50

    USLawman1983

    about 3 years ago

    1572 Comments

    I'm a staunch advocate of off-duty carry. . . except for scenarios like these. They are often career ending for cops.
    To add to Top_Cat's math: alcohol + bars + guns = career ending trouble

  • Thinker_max50

    darsavmo

    about 3 years ago

    11354 Comments

    Drinking with a gun strapped to your side is bad, but drinking and hitting on someone's woman in a public bar while strapped is a disaster waiting to happen. Is it worth your career and possibly your freedom? Leave you gun at home or at least locked in your car if you're going to drink...

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