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Breakdown: Does Video Show Reasonable Force or Not?

Breakdown: Does Video Show Reasonable Force or Not?

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February 10, 2011

Read the original posting at CliffviewPilot.com

NEW BRUNSWICK – Before anyone gets any more exercised over a YouTube video that claims to “prove” a New Brunswick police officer brutalized a Rutgers University student: Watch the video yourself, preferably with the sound off. Read the state Attorney General’s guidelines on the use of force. Then decide for yourself.

On the YouTube video — titled “Rutgers student brutally beaten by NBPD” — a young man narrator provides “commentary” on the action, referring to the officers involved as “The Seven Dwarves,” only with names such as “Punchy” and “Batty.”

He even labels a screen shot.

Unfortunately, in a media-saturated world, this passes for “news.” It gets passed around, and people are influenced. And it’s not necessarily by what they see, but by what they hear a narrator say, as well.

“This is not what I do on a regular basis. I’m not, like, a professional criminologist or something like that. I’m a musician,” he says. He then notes that, at the end of the video, “I will provide links to some of my work, if you do actually want to see that….”

Ahhhh….

One of those links takes you straight to a collection of shots from behind of young women in various states of undress shaking their butts at the camera.

This from the self-appointed expert on reviewing a single-vantage-point videotape that, at its most critical moment, completely obscures 20-year-old Elliott Marx of Lindenhurst, N.Y., as a group of officers arrests him.

I’m not, like a criminologist or something like that. But I do know that one-two-three-four short-armed punches in rapid succession from an officer who is both kneeling and trying to hold a resisting suspect down with the other arm amounts to little more, physically, than getting whacked with a small stick.

The argument also could clearly be made that Marx was punched in the arm — not the face, as the narrator contends.

Another assumption might be that Marx was on his back. However, he’d actually been turned over and apparently was trying to tuck his arms beneath him in an effort not to be handcuffed.

That could account for the scratches that appear on his forehead in a photo released to the media. Being wrestled to the pavement because you won’t voluntarily go down when ordered to will do that.

But don’t take it from me.

“I was working the desk during this incident,” a dispatcher on duty said. “From everything I heard/saw that night, everything was by the book.”

Meanwhile, NJ.COM quotes Jon Shane, a retired Newark police captain who now teaches at John Jay College’s Department of Law and Police Science:

“The amount of force looks reasonable,” Shane said. While the student is on the ground, “he’s not in custody. Who knows what he’s doing or saying down there.” Officer didn’t know if the student had a weapon under him, he added. “You’re in grave risk of being harmed.”

Someone with a camera above the street made the video and posted it on YouTube. Next thing you know, it’s all over local television. Various copies were posted — including Stephan’s mini-analysis.

I am a HUGE fan of citizen journalism. I teach it, in fact. What I do not support is running, subjective commentary on what appears in a video.

Jamal Albarghouti, a graduate student at Virginia Tech, made history when he used his cellphone to capture footage of police officers responding to an on-campus massacre on April 16, 2007. The video literally speaks for itself. Albarghouti doesn’t.

In this case, Marx’s arrest followed a brawl — involving as many as 50 people — that continued even after police arrived and tried to break it up around 1 a.m. Saturday.

Police spokesman Lt. J.T. Miller said Joseph Keepers, 21, of Edison, was charged with disorderly conduct and released without bail.

Marx, meanwhile, was charged with resisting arrest, obstruction, aggravated assault on a police officer and possession of phony ID.

“He jumped on an officer’s back,” Miller explained.

His own attorney, in a rare type of disclosure, urged the public “not to prejudge the police officers or Mr. Marx."

NJ.COM reported that the lawyer said his client and Keepers were headed into a party when someone punched Marx in the face. Amid the melee that followed, Marx went after a man he only later discovered was a police officer, the attorney reportedly said.

Marx is free on $10,000 bail, pending further court action. Neither he nor Keepers filed a complaint with city police, said Miller, the department spokesman. Meanwhile, all of the officers in the video remain on active duty, he added.

The state mandates that police agencies investigate such incidents. So an Internal Affairs probe is under way. You can be sure the investigators will be looking closely at something neither you nor I have seen: The videos recorded by mandatory cameras mounted on the dashboards of police cruisers parked nearby. The overall picture will be fairly conclusive, I would guess.

Most sworn officers I’ve known have spoken of the responsibility that comes with the job. No matter what anyone may think, THEY understand that the use of physical force has to be only when necessary — otherwise, they will find themselves investigated by their agency’s Internal Affairs bureau, or perhaps even by a higher authority, including the federal government.

At a time in New Jersey’s history when their livelihoods literally are at stake, few — if any — are going to take a chance on a borderline action that could cost them their employment and pensions, not to mention a substantial payout in the event of a lawsuit.

That’s why there’s a special course at the various police academies statewide dedicated solely to the topic. That’s why police officers carry around a copy in their folders of the New Jersey Attorney General’s Guidelines on the Use of Force.

Only the narrator knows what he was trying to accomplish with his “dissection” of the video.

I say: Dissect for yourself:

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    Mcaudle224

    about 3 years ago

    4 Comments

    At 1:05 "I am a Musician" okay enough said thank you.

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    FCPD0341

    about 3 years ago

    792 Comments

    This is why "musicians" don't teach police procedure

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    beauinlieuof

    about 3 years ago

    88 Comments

    The narrator is looking at the video behind the officers so how would he know if there was excessive force going on or not. Many students and other people who use heavy drugs and acohol have a tendency to be so voilent they need some force to control them if they are not cooperating. Where I live at, there were two people who took drugs and drank acohol became very violent and the officers who took them in had to tazer them twice to control them. One of them it took four officers to finally get him handcuffed before going to jail. The officers had been called in because these guys were fighting over another persons comments..

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    copper5817

    about 3 years ago

    892 Comments

    Wow, what a moron. The narrator explains, in detail, exactly how little he knows about police procedure....

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    coshane220

    about 3 years ago

    682 Comments

    Amaradus; You say the narrator (who admits he's not an expert in LE criminology but rather a musician, and probably a poor one at that) is just giving his POV with supporting evidence. YEAH RIGHT!!! There is only one camera angle, and at no point in the video, can you truly see what is taking place within the pile to even come close to making an accurate assumption as to what the perp is actually doing.

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    Oncethere2506

    about 3 years ago

    274 Comments

    This is sheer nonsense! There is absolutely ZERO excessive use of force here. The moral of the story to this nit-wit is that when you resist the police, you get your ass kicked!

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    Amaradus

    about 3 years ago

    18 Comments

    Glock you don't have to be an expert to see what is going on, he explains his reasoning for what he says. While I really don't see a big problem here I don't think the narrators commentary was at all inaccurate. He is just trying to give a point of view of what happened with supporting evidence, everyone does it, again you do not "have" to be an expert at all.

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    swatj10

    about 3 years ago

    760 Comments

    For starters.... This so called narrator is some non Law Enforcement person he is a civilian who I am sure on several occassions has had his share of run ins with the Law. The guy narrating this is but annoying, as far as excessive force why dont we let the Police Chief, County Prosecutor decide. Until I see bonified brutality I do not want to watch this video anymore.

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    gradyg

    about 3 years ago

    1118 Comments

    Resisting arrest and that's what you get, but it stills amaze me why it takes five officers to hand cuff one guy. It's never good to put up a fight with police officers and you know your out numbered.

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    Bryan33

    about 3 years ago

    206 Comments

    looks like the guy wasn't complying with coomands...

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    coshane220

    about 3 years ago

    682 Comments

    So this narrator admits that he is not an expert and only a musician yet he attempts to break down this video like he was right there! YEAH RIGHT!!! What an IDIOT!

    I agree with many of your posts, if people watching this video don't understand what they are seeing and only listening to this idiotic narrator, then it does give LE a big black eye! BUT, if you have had to ever be in a situation like this, then you know how things move so fast and can change from one second to the next.

    From what I could see, those officers did a good job of securing the perp and nobody got hurt. GREAT JOB!!!

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    justin_1250

    about 3 years ago

    150 Comments

    The fact that he uses those stupid names shows how dumb this narrator is.

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    ExplorerFL835

    about 3 years ago

    370 Comments

    Good Job NBPD !!!!! Narrator stick with being a little musician you have no clue what your talking about !!!!

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    jims4

    about 3 years ago

    2610 Comments

    Job Well Done NBPD officers. Narrator, go to hell!

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    BrooklynHillsCop

    about 3 years ago

    664 Comments

    WOW.

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