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D.C. Policeman Accused of Pulling Gun to Quell Snowball Fight
Two D.C. police officers, on not in uniform, involved in the snowball fight controversy during a winter storm on Saturday. (Screen shot from home video of the incident.)
USA Today via YellowBrix
December 21, 2009
WASHINGTON, DC – A Washington, D.C. plainclothes police officer accused of pulling a gun after his car was pelted during a Twitter-inspired snowball fight in downtown Washington has been placed on desk duty pending an investigation, The Washington Post reports.
Police initially denied any weapon had been displayed until video footage and witnesses indicated otherwise.
The video footage shows that the unidentified officer drew his gun and exchanged angry words with the boisterous crowd after his Hummer was hit by one or two snowballs, the Post said.
The City Paper reports said the police department, after initially denying a weapon was involved, issued a press release saying it had “subsequently received additional images and statements that would seem to support the allegation that the off-duty member did pull a gun” and was now investigating the matter.
The snowball fighters, mostly in their 20s and 30s, organized the “fight” at 14th and U street as a break from a huge snowstorm that had paralyzed the city this weekend.
Related: DC Chief Slams Officer Over Gun at Snowball Fight
The Post says 25-year-old Yousef Ali, a media and technology geek, spent 11 hours using Twitter and other social media to spread the word.
If the final investigation shows the officer pulled his weapon after being pelted with snowballs, D.C. Assistant Chief Pete Newsham, head of the investigative services bureau, said that “would not be a situation in which a member [of the force] would be justified,” The Post reports.
“We have to see what the entire circumstance was,” Newsham said Sunday. “But just a snowball fight, not in my mind. That doesn’t seem a situation where we would pull out a service weapon.”

jdk569
over 3 years ago
28 Comments
Who knows what this guy saw that caused him to draw. It's some random cell phone video, not a live feed from this officer's eyeballs. He didn't point it at anyone and re-holstered. I've learned long ago that Monday morning quarterbacking and/or telling someone when they can/can't draw their weapon does nobody any good. Only the person who carries the gun for a living can decide when it's a gun day.
11786
over 3 years ago
2 Comments
Hey RayJay55 I agree with you 100 % the first thing the media looks at is someone to blame, law enforcement, military are on the top of the list.. Time to be UN-POLITICALLY CORRECT and stand up for these guys doing a great job protecting the streets...
RayJay55
over 3 years ago
10 Comments
There are numerous inaccuracies in the story, compared to an objective examination of the video. The officer is NOT a plain-clothes officer. He's obviously in MPD uniform, including the patch on his jacket. His firearm holster is in the upper thigh tactical position, not concealed from view. Having worked in DC, and other major metropolitan areas, I know that it would not be unheard of for a riot to break out during a public emergency over parking spaces, traffic "violations" or other real or imagined slights. They often start off low key (like throwing snowballs) and end up in major violence. The LONE officer, witnessed a grand melee in the middle of the street during a snow emergency under conditions of low visibility. Not knowing what was going on, he took action to ensure the peace. He drew his firearm and kept it AT HIS SIDE... a viable and correct precaution. He did not exude anger, just authority. Once he believed the situation offered no personal or public danger, he holstered his sidearm, having NEVER threatened anyone with it, nor even pointing it anywhere but at the ground. In FACT, the only reason this is even an issue is because the camera angle shows the officer's weapon side. Those persons in front of him may not have even seen his sidearm.
Also remember that there have been a number of ambushes of police officers within the last couple months. ANY officer who approaches a crowd of what appears to be engaged in any kind of combat without being in a heightened state of alert and readiness is a fool. My only admonishment for the officer would be the act of approaching the crowd alone. But even then, under the conditions that existed, he was probably aware that there was a limited availability of units to respond to the situation and an inability to arrive in a timely manner if they were available. He most likely felt that he HAD to act to prevent any escalation in violence, IF his worst fears were realized. Relieved that it was just a snowball fight, but irritated at the irresponsibility of the grand melee occuring in the middle of the street, causing a traffic hazard and puting him in a position to be DUTY BOUND to take action in the middle of a declared state of emergency, he showed remarkable restraint.
As for an officer driving a Hummer... give me a break!!!! WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE???? His circumstances and how he chooses to spend HIS money is no one's business as long as it doesn't involve corruption!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous
over 3 years ago
Just another Street fight only this time it happened to be snowing. and if you;re a gang banger or street wise a hole. you can use it to your advantage and come down on the A U T H O R I T Y!! Or you can fall for this crap of the bad ole cops coming down on a group having a wonderful time in the park throwing lovely little polite snoballs and their aim is at those who are there to keep this wonderfull organized group in control who don't respect authority. Consider some long talks in the office with the guys but first we don't even know what they saw!! We are just to believe it was lovely day for a snowball fight and everybody plays by the rules. NOT!
lasvegascop
over 3 years ago
80 Comments
Postal1 says..."Your right, he should have to do what I had to do, 34 days in County, 40K for a lawyer, all for threating another driver (in their opinion). When police stopped me on the way to the gun range a half an hour later, they found 5 rifles, 4 handguns,,,,,,,,,,,,,arrested, guilty until proven innocent......"
Another disgruntled postal worker? Just a coincidence that you had guns in your car and was threatening another driver? Yea,,,,,, right!
lasvegascop
over 3 years ago
80 Comments
I dont know the laws in DC but he didnt point it at any one, he only took it out of his holster. In Vegas we have no open carry law so as long as he didn't point it at any one there would most likely be no laws broken, Thats he was a civilian.. a cop is different, he would surely have some explaining to do and probably some discipline. all he had to do was keep driving.
Now why is everyone so concerned about a NY Detective pay and choice of cars? Hummers arent that expensive anymore H2 and H3s. And I am sure he probably makes enough to afford a 30k car
Anonymous
over 3 years ago
Excuse me I wasn't there. But hey, people get killed in snowball fights especially when those invited are there to cause trouble. 'Oh what a lovely day to have a snoball fight and get some cranked up in over drive.' Not as simple as it sounds I'm sure. Well Yousef Ali" you pulled it off without a hitch and LE is the bad guys! I often wonder what makes you guy run on high test and always there to bring your bag of Cop Banging tricks. Get real dear people, ever heard of explosive situations happening in what looks like the best of interntions lace with FUN!!!
Kacela
over 3 years ago
18 Comments
Badge-itis... 30 days suspension with no pay.
lookoutforone
over 3 years ago
62 Comments
They can afford to drive a Hummer in Dc. being a Cop? If there wasn't so much snow (and crazy gun toting Hummer drivers) I just might leave San Francisco, I drive a Saturn.
postal1
over 3 years ago
262 Comments
126andy says: "I also don't think that he should be fired because of this unless there are other incidents in his files of similar stuff. Maybe some classes or anger management as was mentioned earlier."
Your right, he should have to do what I had to do, 34 days in County, 40K for a lawyer, all for threating another driver (in their opinion). When police stopped me on the way to the gun range a half an hour later, they found 5 rifles, 4 handguns,,,,,,,,,,,,,arrested, guilty until proven innocent......
lookoutforone
over 3 years ago
62 Comments
Respect My Authorita!
postal1
over 3 years ago
262 Comments
He did not get the memo!
If you arrive where several hundred people are in a snowball fight, turn around.
Hummer, Detectives in New York must get pretty good pay?
He draws is gun, the policeman arriving does not know he is a detective, gunfight in OK corral and other police start shooting too, no excuse will bring back people killed.........
BillJ
over 3 years ago
264 Comments
NO COMMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SOARTMAR
over 3 years ago
444 Comments
guscnn, excellent point! A guy steps out of a Hummer with a gun, it is time to run! My dear old daddy taught me never to take a snowball to a gun fight!
SOARTMAR
over 3 years ago
444 Comments
Well, I guess I can understand now why D.C. has some of the strictest firearms laws in the Nation, they don't want their officers shot when they interrupt snowball fights with their guns out while wearing plain clothes. Since when did your car getting hit with a snowball become anywhere near a crime involving the risk of death or serious bodily injury warranting the use of deadly force? When you add the fact that the Officer was driving a Hummer, the civilian version of a MILITARY vehicle and probably impervious to MOST snowballs, the ludicrous becomes whatever is beyond ludicrous. Stupid comes to mind.