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D.C. Policeman Accused of Pulling Gun to Quell Snowball Fight

D.C. Policeman Accused of Pulling Gun to Quell Snowball Fight

Two D.C. police officers, on not in uniform, involved in the snowball fight controversy during a winter storm on Saturday. (Screen shot from home video of the incident.)

USA Today via YellowBrix

December 21, 2009



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    rhicks183

    over 4 years ago

    358 Comments

    A little holiday stress gone out of control. Its bad enough that the streets are covered with ice and snow, now you have close to a hundred people throwing objects across the streets and at moving vehicles. In VA that is a felony in itself. If you throw an object at a movign vehicle, regardless what that object is, it is a felony. I am not sure if that is the case in DC. Also you have a whole bunch of pepole impeding the flow of already dangerous traffic flow. I don not agree that he should have drawn his weapon, but I also do not think that this was a case of an "innocent" snowball fight. Most pepole in the crowd appear to be adults, lets start acting like it. I would hae charged every person that I could have for throwing objects at moving vehicles. I never would have pulled my weapon though. Good luck Detective, the video doesn't look good.

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    wiseass0282

    over 4 years ago

    10982 Comments

    Five hours ago I said, " This is going to get ugly". I was right !

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    MarineMPSpecReac

    over 4 years ago

    230 Comments

    As far as the police officer was concerned I understand not wanting people throwing things at your car, but it would have been better served if he had shown his badge and identified himself and asked the crowd not to throw snowballs at passing vehicles, which would have been appropriate.

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    Anonymous

    over 4 years ago

    Looks like assault with a snowball to me. How do you know they don't have a rock in them? How about inducing a riot? Looks like a few violations to me. Or the fact that he did point his gun at anyone and then puts it away? I guess all of these things don't matter.

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    Jynxx75

    over 4 years ago

    2 Comments

    OMG! Look at all these people having fun! There are women, children, and men, and a collage of different races all having FUN together! How often do you get to see that!

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    bill9823

    over 4 years ago

    2116 Comments

    I am not going to take sides here, I have watched the youtube videos that others have posted and didn't see him point his weapon at anyone, that being said I think he overreacted, he should have driven to a clear area and called it in. What they were doing is against the law. Fun as it may have been for them, they were still breaking the law.

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    tenderoni40

    over 4 years ago

    2 Comments

    I think that police officers are under to much stress and needs to take more around the clock vacations. Because they do not know how to have fun anymore or do they have the common sense of reconizing fun when they see it. Nothing is funny anymore every thing is so serious sll the time.
    Lighten up, go on a date, get laid once in awhile, have a beer, dance some time, through snowballs with your kids, go out to a family dinner some times, Lighten up. Thank you

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    johnusmc

    over 4 years ago

    22 Comments

    It was a damn snowball fight! What is wrong with you people!!!! That "cop" should be fired and never given a badge!!! This egotistical idiot went beyond good and fair judgement, beyond his training and became a vigilante!!! FOR NO REASON!!! Who among hasn't done the same as these twenty people in times past? You're lying if you don't admit it!!!!

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    sheepdog07

    over 4 years ago

    2 Comments

    There were 20 plus disorderly people, causing traffic disruption, the officer had a duty to act. Further more, that many people against one, the gun was justified. Everyone there that rufused to leave and/or that was yelling should have been arrested and taken to jail for DC. The man that threw the snowball at him once he got out of the car, should have been charged with assault on a peace officer.

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    cavalrymedic

    over 4 years ago

    10 Comments

    There is no judgement to withhold. It's snowballs for crying out loud. Face it folks. We all have idiots like this on every department. What these egomaniac fools do is put us all into increased danger and inject us into bad situations. The detective needs a vacation. He never pointed his gun at anyone, true, but to the public, it just doesn't matter. So he got taunted. I get taunted, we all get taunted by idiots. It's in those exact situations that I want people who can maintain their cool and composure. Some officers are just so full of themselves.

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    AnthonyLew

    over 4 years ago

    36 Comments

    Washoe,

    Do you honestly think Baylor, being a detective, would deny to his superiors that he pulled a gun, when he admitted ON camera there at the scene that said accusations were true? Watch some of the other videos, you will see people almost getting hit by cars, hails of snowballs being thrown while cars are driving past, and all types of crap. What bothers me is that the D.C. P.D. did not know this snow-ball fight was even going on until this happened.

    I'm 24 but I swear everyone my age thinks every-other person uses twitter, I sure as heck don't. People have other things to do than check twitter all the time.

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    LordEnki

    over 4 years ago

    24 Comments

    I'm sorry to hear that
    Hey LordEnki. In my younger days. we had snowball fights but some clown had to turn the ball into a projectile and my friend lost his sight in one eye. So don't go making funnies. I say always be ready and you won't be surprised. That's how you save lives by putting in practice all that you've learned in tacticl training and theorum. Better always to be ready for possible contentious confrontations and real surprises causes people to wind up dead!

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    washoe

    over 4 years ago

    46 Comments

    The thing that bothers me is that the department alledgedly "initially denied any weapon had been displayed until video footage and witnesses indicated otherwise." This would indicate that when superiors asked the plain clothes officer if he drew his weapon he indicated "No, not me, I didn't pull my sidearm" and it wasn't until the video surfaced that the "truth" became known and the department had to reverse their position. At first blush it would appear that the plain clothes officer had either a problem with his memory or a problem with the truth. Both can be detrimental in police work. Some serious information missing here so judgement should be withheld until the investigation is completed

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    AnthonyLew

    over 4 years ago

    36 Comments

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFC8mNdxV0c

    That is a link to a more clear video. This is being completely blown up by the media, and some of the people that were there. I have watched other videos and you can clearly see that the snow-ball-throwing citizens are NOT on one side of the street. They are on opposing sides of the street that run parallel with each-other. So in result they are throwing snowballs ACROSS traffic.

    In the video link I posted, you can clearly see that the detective hopped out of his vehicle, drew his gun, had the gun pointing at the ground, whipped out his radio, and then proceeded to call for back-up.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBaZHPkOY68&feature=related

    Here you can clearly see some Einstein almost got hit by a car trying to drive-down the street because he wasn't paying attention due to the snow-ball fight. The officer may have overreacted, however, it is clear that the civilians were not thinking about "safety" in this situation. People can pack rocks and all types of stuff inside of snowballs, and when throwing them at each-other in four different directions at an intersection, things could possibly get a little crazy.

    All in all, the gathering had its harmless fun intentions none the less, but the Detective Baylor should not be crucified over this one. I mean the first-responding uniformed officer hops out of his car, gun drawn, pointing it at the ground, and almost immediately identifies Mr. Baylor as a cop. I'm sure he had radioed something in.

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    Alexander_Ott

    over 4 years ago

    572 Comments

    Wow, nice find, mmarchesi! Unedited, shows the beginning, and doesn't have the volume cut out.
    What a mouth on these kids lol. Honestly though, if I threw a snowball at a person's face with a gun out, I'd assume I would get shot, not roll over laughing.

    I'll repost this, and hopefully other people will too.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U17SxJzv9DM&feature=player_embedded

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