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A Referendum On Red-Light Cameras?
Houston Chronicle via YellowBrix
October 23, 2009
HOUSTON, TX – Two lawyers suing over the Houston’s red-light camera program contend that a judge’s order to release more than 150 internal city documents will pave the way for a citywide referendum to end the program next year.
Paul Kubosh and Randall Kallinen filed a lawsuit challenging the city’s refusal to release 208 documents they requested under the Texas Public Information Act, many of them internal city communications and e-mails to and from the camera vendor, relating to last year’s city-sponsored study of the effectiveness of the camera program.
State District Judge Tracy Christopher has ordered the city to release 160 of 208 contested documents, ruling the city legal department presented no evidence they should be withheld under the law’s exceptions for attorney-client privilege or the deliberative process. Since the program began in May 2006, the city has issued 607,000 civil citations and collected $21.4 million.
“What this lawsuit will end up doing with the release of these documents, it will help prove once and for all what the red-light camera program is all about. It’s about revenue,” said Kubosh, standing on the steps of City Hall. “This is not about safety, it does not increase safety. Robert Stein told the city of Houston officials, in e-mails, that red-light cameras do not increase safety in these intersections.”
Kubosh was referring a study of the camera program that was released Dec. 22, 2008, by Rice University professor Robert Stein and the Texas Transportation Institute. The study found that while collisions increased at the intersections monitored by cameras, they did so at a lower rate than at un-monitored locations.
Stein said the city’s red light vendor, ATS of Arizona, did not attempt to influence the findings or methodology of the study.
“We found the program was not as effective as it had been in many other cities. We found that collisions were increasing at all intersections, but at a much slower rate at the cameraed intersections,“ Stein said, adding, “We thought the program was worth the investment.”
City attorney Arturo Michel said the city likely would not appeal the order, noting that many of the documents had been added as exhibits to motions filed in court.
notmeofficer
about 1 month ago
250 Comments
Revenue generators for big brother... I want a real human to tell me I screwed up... cameras just take a copper out of the car
sierra_charlie_hotel
about 1 month ago
376 Comments
Why is this news?
msp1672
about 1 month ago
238 Comments
If you really want to stop the red light runners, then why not have the concrete barriers like they have around the federal buildings in D.C. rise up at the intersection for the red lights. That would stop the red light runners and keep everyone safe inside the intersection (he says with a mix of humor and a straight face).
Yeah I know, they would just crash into the barriers. . . . .but there would be a definite drop in side impacts at these intersections, right?
msp1672
about 1 month ago
238 Comments
Oh, so in Houston the person that programs the lights/cameras is doing this to increase revenues???? Who would have thought. Wonder how many other jurisdictions across the country have some similar types of problems. I think that is why Michigan tries to have a disconnect between a jurisdiction and the revenue coming in from the fines/costs that the court receives for all of those simple citations that the officers are writing inside that jurisdiction.
While I can understand the initial reasoning behind wanting enforcement at a particular site 24/7, it still boils down to not correcting a problem, the driver's driving habits, and only revenuing for that particular jurisdiction. At least the officer can explain the reasoning behind the cite or verbal warning (in some places a written warning) and maybe change the driver's driving habits which is our main concern for traffic enforcement anyway, right???? After all, if their driving habits improve, then it is logical that the traffic crashes will drop. If this isn't your main concern, then maybe you're in the wrong line of work.
Texlawman
about 1 month ago
448 Comments
Having been hit by 4 red light runners, I like the cameras, but they don't do any good against drunks! Here in Houston there is abuse of someone using a red light changer to help increase thier monies. Seen this several times where a light changed real fast and no emergency vehicles are in site! So there is abuse. They also click too soon on someone making a right turn ! One thing for sure they DONT DETER DRUNK red light runners!
scfredjr
about 1 month ago
262 Comments
Barely marked patrol cars are a liability in a Pursuit. Red light cameras not only take pictures of redlight runners, but also capture video footage of crashes. They can also be used to locate stolen vehicles or to obtain tag numbers off of suspect vehicles.
Bottom line. stop at the red light and you don't have to worry about getting a ticket.
msp1672
about 1 month ago
238 Comments
I didn't know the motor vehicle code was to create revenue for the local community. I thought it was to make our drivers safer. Here in Michigan, almost all of our motor vehicle code laws are civil infractions. With that in mind, our law in Michigan says that except during the investigation of a traffic crash, an officer has to personally see the infraction and then physically hand the citation to the driver that committed the infraction. So, the law does not allow the red light cams. Which in my humble opinion is nothing more than a revenuer for that community.
clobster
about 1 month ago
578 Comments
Lynnwood, WA is a big fan of these cameras. They've made so much money off the few they have now, they're putting it even more. They're also changing school zones to enforce the 20 mph speed limit 24 hours a day - with the cameras (supposedly). If you want money for the city, find a way that doesn't gauge the community. If you want to enforce traffic laws, I agree with PSD_TEAM_LEADER - more shadow/ghost cars for traffic enforcement. Bigger traffic units within departments will make the difference because they'll enforce both that and speed laws.
fplasencia
about 1 month ago
5374 Comments
More cameras...
Well, just make sure you know where they are guys... Don't loose it.... If you know what I mean...
HEYSARGE
about 1 month ago
12062 Comments
Very simple.........Stop at the red light's Or get a ticket! If you don't stop at red lights then you got something to worry about, if you stop at red lights like the law requires you to do then no problem................Very simple!
Account Removed
about 1 month ago
Not a big fan of these cameras around. What I want to see more of is ALOT more shadow/ghost cars for traffic enforcement, even for patrol cruisers. I find there is much more to gain from barely marked cruiers than cameras that are set up for $75 tickets